Putin Sees 'Maidan-Style' Attempts in US to Delegitimize Trump

For the most part it is only "progressives" who agree to being controlled in what they may and may not say or hear, and who are into the new Democratic Party's Joseph McCarthy Red Scare tactics.

 

True dat.

 

Yes we can... During the Gorbachev era millions of Russians believed in CIA created illusions.
Do you remember the famous Scorpions song called "Wind of Change"? Its lyrics actually celebrating the "Glasnost".
That kind of wind was effecting the Russian youth. No need to mention who was behind that wind, I guess.
And yes, you are right, that meant the breakup of USSR... Seems like it's payback time huh?

 

A coup d'etat will not be necessary to remove Trump. He's in self-destruct mode. At his age, his anger alone, will probably cause a stroke or heart attack. I hope he's getting good medical advice, and paying attention to it.

 

The irony of a democrat complaining about sexual conduct!

 

^^A+^^
All these bitter lefties do nothing for themselves with the Trump bashing. If anything, they make him stronger and more popular with the working middle class and gun owners that helped greatly in getting him elected. Thanks to obama, the Republicans are in control of all branches of government in DC These petulant congressmen that are sitting out the inaguration and "making a statement" may need a favor for their constituents someday. Good luck with all that.

 

I agree with you 100%.

What amuses me about this situation is the abject hypocrisy of the Democrats who will be picking up their marbles and running home bawling to mommy tomorrow.

It was only a couple of months when Hillary Clinton declared that anyone who questioned the outcome and legitimacy of the election was "threatening our democracy". To Democrats, this was a bad thing back when Trump was talking about doing it, but now that Democrats are actually doing it, it's a good thing.

I wonder how many of the Democrats who are threatening our democracy claim to be defending the democracy that they are threatening?

All I can say is if Democrats want to be hoist with their own petard, go ahead an light the fuse. Like you said, they're only hurting themselves.

 

The tax returns have to be the biggest canard of the lot. Who freaking cares? If he's not legally required to do so, then I say let him enjoy his right not to do so.

 

There's already been a coup, it's main conspirator and beneficiary is being inaugurated on the 20th.

The "election" of 2016 was as crooked as a dog's hind leg. IMO there can be little doubt Trump actively conspired with the Russian hackers to influence the election. Whether this actually influenced any vote tallies is both unknowable and irrelevant, just trying is an impeachable offense and the reason Nixon resigned in 1974. Hopefully, we will find solid evidence against Trump and can impeach him but I doubt it will ever happen, Trump is far more of a dictator than Nixon could have even dreamed of being and he is going to move to consolidate his hold on power far more ruthlessly.

To my way of thinking we will be lucky if there is ever an honest Presidential election in this country again. The main thing to do now is to move strongly against any Republican candidate who will be up for reelection in 2018. If we can remove Trump's support in Congress we may be able to limit any further damage he means to do to our country and keep him from taking over the Presidency for himself and his hand-picked successors.

 

Talk of a coup is rather silly, seeing that law enforcement and the military, in general, actually like Trump. Not to mention the fact that Americans don't function that way.

 

No
Next!

 

We can but hope that your prediction comes true. This man is a volatile, thoughtless, reactionary, immoral, and potentially very dangerous sociopath. And, before the predictable 'butthurt' comments get posted by the usual right-wing suspects, this character would be dangerous whichever side of the aisle he was infecting. The following could have been written about Trump: http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/15850/1/Characteristics-of-a-Sociopath.html

 

I am expecting a serious violence in DC, today.

 

A lot of powerful men and women are sociopaths. I'm sure a lot of previous Presidents and other world leaders are/were. Some are named Clinton or Kennedy.

 

Have any been as impulsive as Trump? This is where much of the anxiety and disquiet stems from, irrespective of anything else he may have said or done.

 

I don't think we actually know that he acts impulsively. He seems to love rocking the boat with rhetoric but I don't think he is dangerously impulsive in his actions. He can learn a lot once he gets the conversation boiling. I believe your perception of him is off the mark.

 

Well it all remains to be seen, but I can't honestly see his character being fundamentally changed by this time tomorrow. Let's hope he is both able to listen, take criticism without lashing out, and good advice when it is either sought or offered.

 

We can agree that it remains to be seen, we just expect somewhat different outcomes. I laughed when I heard he was running, I gave him the snowball's chance of surviving the sorting and yet here he is, President of the United States. He has obviously been underestimated, perhaps that will prove to be something he cultivates while he pursues his desired outcome in situations?

 

Not hard to imagine, if they had access to factual information. In fact at some point in history, it probably happened during the Reagan years.

 

Nah, just another liberal fantasy.

 

Absolutely no coup.

 

An attempt at impeachment would be tantamount to a coup.

Trump will be expected to continue Obama's attempts to oust Syria's Assad. Taking control of Syria is necessary for the US to forward its Geo-Political Strategy. If Trump fails to do so, look for him to be impeached.

Which of the e-mails from the DNC proved not to be true?

 

Yes, when the Princeton Study came out, MSM was in blackout over the biggest news story since the Pentagon Papers. I read about it on some foreign news service site, and several European news agencies wrote about it once. Here in the states it was relegated to tin foil hat sites who see some nefarious conspiracy behind every tree. So it was kept out of our news, and only the tin foil hatters wrote about it. Which is where some people would want it to be, so it could be ignored by the more intelligent, and forgot about. But what this study evidenced was we are either at full speed ahead moving into fascism, oligarchy, OR, we are already there. They used 30 years of legislation which evidenced that the average American was not being looked out for, nor their interests represented but only special interests. MNCs, the banking cabal, and the elites who own these entities. If public policy and law exclusively serves these special interests, with those policies against the best interest of the people, this system is oligarchy. Of course many of these policies involved offshoring America's economic engine, an important engine for living wage jobs, in the scheme of maxing out banking and corporate profit by slave labor anywhere they can find it. Remember what is called free trade is just the tool for the offshoring.

This paradigm is being challenged by Trump, and he ran on it. And he held the same position as now back in the 90s. So he is a threat to this scheme of globalization which bottoms out labor costs, and creates more non living wage jobs than living wage jobs.

I think there is more than one special interest involved and have not looked into what you referenced. As long as one scheme does not contradict the other these various interests act as one force. The one I am concerned with involves a new robber baron class, many very old rich elite families who are in the business of wealth, which is extracted from economic activity. They gave us globalization, but it is just another scheme to send as much money to the top as possible. These men now have a gov't that will give them most of what they want when it comes to making money. But trump might (*)(*)(*)(*) in their cereal, and is up against the same kind of forces FDR had to take on, to change things back then, which meant removing some of their wealthy driven power upon gov't. This is the big picture domestically..

Now these same elites have a foreign policy that enriches them. It looks like it was created just in their interests. Gen. Smedley Butler wrote a book about it called War is a Racket, which together with the Perkins book reveals what our reality actually is. But its a big secret. Journalists will not touch it. Which reveals what the media actually is. Now there are probably other complimentary special interest forces at work as well, as you mentioned.

If you then read or listen to Ray McGovern who used to brief presidents, for the CIA, he will back up and confirm what Butler and Perkins say, as well as Binney, retired NSA and whistleblower, and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, asst. sec. of treasury under Reagan and cofounder of reaganomics. There are many others, credible men, saying the same thing. The CIA has always worked in the interests of our elites. American interests are the same as the interests of a few of our elites. You know their names. Read The Dulles Brothers. All of this info is out there, but you will never see it in MSM. No one is supposed to know. But only by seeing the big picture can you make sense from what our politicians do. Now doing what we have done in the middle east makes sense. Hollowing out our own economy makes sense. Having open borders for cheap labor makes sense. Not toughing up laws on employers who employ illegals makes sense. Open borders was a part of the globalization scheme to minimize labor costs for greater profits.

 

Dear [MENTION=67666]goody[/MENTION]: If Trump's whole vision is to return power back to the people,
then the focus well SHOULD be on as many other people taking up leadership roles in movements
and solutions on EACH and EVERY issue facing and affecting Americans.
The power SHOULD be redistributed to create jobs and positions for as many other leaders
as there are problems and solutions to address, in all areas and levels of governance.

Trump would do well to OPEN THE DOOR to townhall meetings, coalition efforts with
leaders and members of all parties, unions and interests groups fighting for causes.

Why NOT share responsibility for business and govt plans for reforms and restructuring budgets and programs?

Why does this even have to be a fight, why can't it be a regular outreach to involve citizens and business leaders
in reorganizing and reforming govt to work more cost-effectively, ethically and sustainably?

 

I have been looking through the forum topics. The cold war geopolitical game appears to be alive and kicking in full monstrous spirit.

Mr Vladimir Putin appears to be a strong leader with the full respect of his people. Something I hope he shares with Mr Donald Trump after the excitement has settled down.