Race and Crime

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Conservative Democrat, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. notme

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    So you admit your stats are not about denying systemic racism.

    While the stats are about who the cops arrest and who got convicted. It's not about who got away with it. My scientific research paints the picture that white people get away with it with a very very large margin since they commit more drug related offenses. It shows in the % of white people getting in trouble when pulled over. Drug related crime goes hand in hand with violence and murder.

    And so my sources stand, and I proved systemic racism.
     
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    maybe if you came back with actual stats and not opinion bits you’d feel better. As of now systemic racism is about as real and any Easter bunny, it’s real in your head.
     
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    Can’t prove a negative, you should consider understanding this while ignoring actual stats.
     
  4. notme

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    I already put 6 sources up. And all you can mutter is that the university of Stanford doesn't do scientific research. Like I care about your unscientific opinion about Stanford.

    There is no negative being proven. We got scientific research. You only got stats that isn't about systemic racism.
     
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  5. Conservative Democrat

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    By every objective, measurable criterion blacks tend to be significantly less intelligent than whites. They have a murder rate that is nearly eight times the white rate, and an illegitimacy rate that is over twice the white rate. No one should be surprised that a race with these characteristics arouses feelings of fear, loathing and contempt. What surprises me is the willingness of powerful whites to suppress mention of these racial differences and the genetic reasons for them.
     
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    Systemic racism is the current alibi for black failure when there is no evidence of racial discrimination.
     
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    Is it? Since the predominantly white majority in the US lost the ability to legally discriminate black people, the income of that group has increased. With better housing and nutrition they managed to start closing the gap on IQ scores on a very fast pace. Nobody is going to doubt that a couple of centuries of crappy housing, no schooling and compulsory manual labor under harsh condition for white people only will absolutely plummet their IQ score. And so the entire idea that being black means less intelligent is just a conservative pre Jim Crow era faulty understanding of the human life.

    The fear for black people is racist and irrational and originates from the era where black people legally got oppressed. That era is not ancient, bur recent. People like Biden and Trump personally enjoyed their early college years with Jim Crow laws present. Their generation got raised up with racist norms, they passed them through to the next generation. You can see it happening in statistics that dealing and using drugs happens in the white community slightly more than in the black community.... yet the US justice system manages to toss black people behind bars 6 times more often. This is systematic and has been happening for decades on end. Driving while black is also a true phenomena, and only shows the irrational fear for black people since white people are statistically the biggest criminal when pulled over. The irrationality exist within a large percentage of white people who deny such facts that black people systematically are treated harsher. There is something evil behind that culture that exist of denying and not caring that black people are treated harsher.

    You can see that same evil that the predominantly white society kept the practice of adduction native American children and toss them in boarding schools where they suffered from malnutrition, poor healthcare and violent disciplining, abuse, also sexual (just like in churches / lots of them were also run by churches) where death was common place. A practice that ended only in 1978 without any sense of remorse of the damage they inflicted. It's again an odd mixture of denying, and not caring they treated people of a different ethnicity far more harsher.

    It's odd to read you find black people more violent, while the habits of the violent and cruel habits of the white society shouldn't be something you wouldn't know. I can only guess you just don't care about that when looking at stats who the cops found worthy of arresting and who the look the other way for.
     
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  8. CCitizen

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    Very few people who oppose Racism would even read this thread.

    Discrimination against African Americans in USA is worse then discrimination against Jews in USSR.

    Everyone who faces abuse and discrimination becomes anti-social. Most Jews in USSR switched their loyalty during Cold War. That was also close to treason -- a severe crime.
     
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    It's a proven fact that it exists. I put up 6 sources. It says a lot about you, if you deny it.

    White people do and deal slightly more drugs. It's a fact. Black people get tossed in jail over this 6 times more often... sometimes with a 3 strikes your out theme. A guy like Charlie Sheen, known drug user and wife beater gets of with a probation, rehab and being send to anger management... just ones. It's typical how white people get off easier, especially when rich.
     
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    Thank you. Accusing African Americans of innate violence, etc. is like accusing Jews of innate propensity to treachery. During 1970s and '80s, most Soviet Jews were on the side of USA in Cold War.
     
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    Indeed, discrimination against African Americans allows white drug dealers mostly to escape punishment.
     
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    Indeed, USA and Britain have a long history of Genocide and Aggression. Germany has much worse history.

    If we include organized violence, then the British and Germans come out as those with worst statistical proclivity toward murder. USA also has British heritage.
     
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    Black academic performance increased marginally until the mid 1980's. They improvement stopped. leaving a large race gap. Improvements from Head Start are minor, and transitory. No Child Left Behind has left most black children behind. There were cheating scandals in several black majority school districts. These districts reported substantial black gains. When test results were scrutinized it was discovered that many of the wrong answers had been erased and the right answers were penciled in.
     
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    This is the reason for the fear of black people:

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    U.S. Department of Justice Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics November 2011

    Based on available data from 1980 to 2008—  Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)

    https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

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    Jesse Jackson shares that fear:

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  15. chris155au

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    I'm simply stating the FACT that they don't know about all of the drug crime and they do not claim to! And you said that "MAYBE" that's correct! So you admit that you MAY in fact agree with me! :roflol:
     
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    How is this an example of black people being "discriminated legally?" That's just people being racist pieces of human waste!
     
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    So what's your solution then?
     
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    Is this blacks in general, or specifically African Americans?
     
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    Why?

    Discrimination by the government?

    So then by the left's 'logic', black people must be SERIOUSLY anti-social! :roflol:
     
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    :roflol:
    All victims of Abuse and Discrimination have high crime rates. Using that to further prejudice is evil.
     
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    True. Historic racism has lingering effects. If slavery never happened and blacks were always treated the exact same as whites, we would not be seeing the problems in the black community to the same degree I'm sure. In fact, there's no reason to believe that there wouldn't be ZERO disparity between whites and blacks. It's certainly possible! But we'll never know.

    How is it being used to further prejudice?
     
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    Why?

    Discrimination by the government?

    So then why isn't black American completely anti-social?
     
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    African Americans and other Minorities still suffer discrimination. Older generation has been through Segregation. I can never speak for African Americans.

    My parents have experienced a milder version of Segregation as Jews in USSR.
     
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    I can never speak for other people. In 1980-83 I was not patriotic toward USSR -- many Jews were in some ways outside Society. Many would consider siding with the opposing SuperPower during Cold War very unethical.
     
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    Why?
     

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