Rachel Maddow brings an important message about an alarming world trend...

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  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have not read all of the posts in this thread but, hopefully, no one on the Left is making the asinine claim that Meloni is not entitled to be Prime Minister. You have your facts mixed up. Having a poor opinion of a politician, or of a political development, is something that people express, from ALL parts of the political spectrum-- there is nothing wrong with that. Voicing criticism of a politician, policy, or political philosophy, does not equate, for most people, with ignoring election results, and nullifying the person or thing, of which the speaker does not approve. So you have no basis for your contention (bolded, above).

    But do you know which Party does have a significant portion of its supporters, who do believe in negating election results (by claiming significant fraud, of which there is no proof)?
     
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    Fake News Rachel Madcow is a liar.

    THE LEFT FEAR ITALY’S NEW PRIME MINISTER, AND THAT IS WHY THEY VILIFY HER:

    Meloni represents everything the Left hates and fears.
    1. She believes in the nuclear family as a foundation of her country’s survival.
    2. She is also a woman and pro-life — perhaps the Left’s worst nightmare.
    3. She is against indoctrinating the youth with radical gender ideology.
    4. She embraces her religion instead of shunning it.
    5. She’s against same-sex marriage.
    6. She is also an outspoken critic of the contemporary radical leftist politics that has dragged down Italy for years.
    'Meloni unequivocally condemns fascism.The leftist cult isn't interested in what she actually believes — they are just trying to defame her in order to prevent people from listening to what she has to say.'

    'None of these issues are fascist; they just threaten what the radical Left believes. As a result, leftists turn to what they know best, sensationalist fear-mongering. It’s a core tenet of the Left’s global messaging strategy, and it has been so for the last 120 years. They don’t want her to lead Italy because she can become a beacon of hope and potentially change the toxic culture of infanticide that has run rampant around the civilized globe for far too long. The Left fears her influence.'

    Some of the Progressive Puritans can be rather nasty, slanderous witch hunters eager to burn someone at the stake.
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Watching Rachel Madcow immediately lowers your IQ and that's not good.

    The left and feminist harpies are not wrong to hate Italy’s first female prime minister. Giorgia Meloni is everything they are not — independent and plain-spoken.

    'In a 2018 interview with Reuters, she worried about Italy’s birthrates and the difficult choices facing mothers.'

    ‘The first thing we asked for was a grand plan to sustain the birth rate and give incentives to become parents, which is a priority in our program,’ she said.

    Some of these Progressive Puritans hate life and hate any increase in live births, though, they are quite pleased with every abortion possible occuring.

    'Children as important, as necessary, should be a mainstream idea, but the women ‘perfecting’ feminism rarely speak up for them.'

    'Meloni will likely be neither the villain portrayed by the left nor the hero that some on the right hope she will be. Politics in Italy are tumultuous, and her success is not a given. But she is nothing like the monster invented by the left.'

    'Maybe the newly minted Italian politics experts can take a seat and watch from afar what the woman, mother, Italian, Christian does or doesn’t do.'

    'If the GOP takes one or both houses of Congress in November, expect a similar freakout from the DNC-MSM and leftist denizens of social media.'

    We will revel in their angst.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry, I do not engage weasel words.

    that means you are projecting.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    She loves fascism, she's been singing Mussolini's praises all of her life. If she says otherwise, she's backpedaling.

    Sorry, it's widely known she is a neofascist.

     
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    Works exactly the same for socialism, people vote for it because they are duped into it. The result is the same as fascism - murder, starvation, tyranny.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of FFS, there you go again, more nauseous verbosity. You're the intellectual equivalent of molasses.

    I get it, your tactic is to grind people down. That's the trait of smug twits with impenetrable skulls

    Take it somewhere else.

    Last thing I need is to engage with a bloviating sesquipedalian.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    If that's your post's headline, I know that I have better things to do, than wade through the muck of your reply's devolution, into things that you were not quite as proud of, as that bit of... whatever you call that.
    Wit?
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, scary socialism

     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your problem is obvious.
     
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    LOL you call folks names every day, including using this determination. I know, you cannot actually defend your OP. So out come the name calling tactics. it actually is what you do.
     
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    Widely known huh? I'll bet you never even heard of her until just before you made this thread.

    If she's been singing the praises of Mussolini as long as you say she has, then you should have no problem posting a video of her doing just that. The one you provided talks about no more mosques. Nothing else.
     
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    Socialism is very scary. It’s the most murderous system of the bloody 20th century and possibly of all time.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If the salient aspect of a rebuttal consists of weasel words, it's a indication of a substandard reply that doesn't merit a response..

    Now, understand that I will reply to weak arguments, logical fallacies, etc. What I call not merit worthy are 'non arguments'. Those do not merit a response and often I'll supply a prewritten inventory of them to indicate what I mean by a 'non argument'.

    So, in my view, it's not an insult, it's an explanation of why I'm not going to engage in further discussion. Most would just ignore.

    Weasel words are an actual thing.

    However, there is no point in addressing the point you raise in your rebuttal, above, until we can cure the one to which a reply is not forthcoming to due to caliber issues.

    weaselwords.jpg
     
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    "weasel words" are bad, everyone you don't like being Hitler is fine. Some people just can't see how hilarious they are.
     
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    Italy is great again! Don’t listen to these haters.
     
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    I see you constantly criticize Fox News.

    Then you quote Rachel Maddow.

    Good lord.
     
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    I'd argue that the last thing that these Authoritarians Witch-hunting Progressive Puritans are is "Liberal". They are in fact the opposite.

    TOO MANY SEMI-FASCISTS IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY: Berkeley Develops Jewish-Free Zones.

    'The real issue here is discrimination, not speech. By adopting anti-Jewish bylaw provisions, these groups are restricting their successors from cooperating with pro-Israel speakers and groups. In this way, the exclusionary bylaws operate like racially restrictive covenants, precluding minority participation into perpetuity.'

    'Universities should not have to be legally compelled to do what is obviously right. Anti-Zionist policies would still be monstrously immoral, even if they were not also unlawful. The students should be ashamed of themselves. As should grownups who stand quietly by or mutter meekly about free speech as university spaces go as the Nazis’ infamous call, judenfrei. Jewish-free.'

    But these same clowns solemnly assure us that Giorgia Meloni is the real fascist when she is no such thing.
     
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    Fake news. You are repeating the slander of the EU semi-Fascists.

    Can The EU Survive Europe’s Conservative Election Wave?

    'Now, the Eurocrats in Brussels are running scared. The natives are restless, and they have the votes to put new leaders in. The EU started out as a seemingly harmless organization stressing economic efficiency, trade, and a common currency. Now it’s a socialist octopus, looking to use its tentacles to rule Europe by bureaucratic decree.'

    Tell the Semi-Fascist in Brussels to bugger off

    'Why is this sudden turn to the right happening? Simple. The EU and its member political elites have utterly failed their citizens. Europe is now suffering from absurd “net-zero” green policies that will lead to people literally freezing to death this winter, while their economies and beloved euro currency crash. In Germany, energy prices have shot up by 1,000%, leaving people with awful choices — the same ones the rest of Europe and Russia will have to make.'

    Trump warned them that they were far too reliant on Putin for energy supplies and the fools laughed.

    'A sampling of recent dire headlines tell the tale: “Europe’s Economy And Living Standards Are Plummeting,” “European Countries Are On The Brink Of Economic Disaster, OECD Says,” and “Recession clouds gather in Germany, Europe’s largest economy.” The list goes on.'

    'The point is, the EU and left-leaning governments across Europe have failed horribly at delivering stability, prosperity, and peace to their citizens. So, before it’s too late, the citizens are hitting the brakes, voting for the opposition in recent elections.'

    Prosperity isn't their goal, austerity for the serfs is, while the politically connected live lives of conspicuous opulence and privilege.
     
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    Ah yes, a lot of the screaming voices around the world, and those here in the U.S. are wailing about political parties with "deep roots going back to Fascism" include the Democratic party whose deep roots go back to racial discrimination, slavery. the KKK. lynching of blacks and Republicans, and Jim Crow laws. That vile party now has the nerve to lecture others on ANYTHING? They need to shut their mouths and sit this one out...better yet dissolve the execrable party altogether.
     
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    The Italian Left party is rooted into the Italian Communist Party.
     
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    “To understand events around the world today, one must think in terms of the class struggle.”

    Not Marx's 'workers and peasants facing off against rapacious capitalists, but it is a case of today’s ruling class facing disaffection from its working class.'

    Politically connected privileged left-wing Genty vs the folks that actually produce the goods and services that folks want and need.

    'In the old Soviet Union, the Marxists assured us that once true communism was established under a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” the state would wither away and everyone would be free. In fact, however, the dictatorship of the proletariat turned into a dictatorship of the party hacks, who had no interest whatsoever in seeing their positions or power wither.'

    No kidding, that was always the magical step that never occurs.

    'Yugoslav dissident Milovan Djilas called these party hacks the “New Class,” noting that instead of workers and peasants against capitalists, it was now a case of workers and peasants being ruled by a managerial new class of technocrats who, while purporting to act for the benefit of the workers and peasants, somehow wound up with the lion’s share of the goodies. Workers and peasants stood in long lines for bread and shoddy household goods, while party leaders and government managers bought imported delicacies in special, secret stores. (In a famous Soviet joke, then-leader Leonid Brezhnev shows his mother his luxury apartment, his limousine, his fancy country house and his helicopter only to have her object: “But what if the communists come back?”) . . .'

    Exactly

    'But the New Class isn’t limited to communist countries, really. Around the world in the postwar era, power was taken up by unelected professional and managerial elites. In countries as diverse as France, Hungary, Italy and Brazil, it’s important to realize that the post-World War II institutional arrangements of the Western democracies are being renegotiated, and that those democracies’ professional and managerial elites don’t like that very much, because they have done very well under those arrangements. And, like all elites who are doing very well, they don’t want that to change.'

    And their go to move is slander and hate mindless parotted by their Useful Idiots.

    Add Italy and soon, we will have our Midterms!
     
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    Please set the strawman aside, and watch the video. Thank you.
     
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    I'm surprised someone as annoying as Maddow still has a job, even on the pathetic MSNBC cable channel.
     
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    Not to forget how she & sisters destroyed
    Anne Heche

    Moi
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