Racism, an instinctual nature of separation

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  1. Johnny-C

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    Racism is essentially a mixture of self-centered obsession and ignorance.

    Science shows us that the physical differences between HUMAN beings (the only race) is virtually nothing... but it takes education and a sound mind to realize and accept that.

    Meanwhile, if people are taught that sharing and teamwork aren't important or worthwhile... they will likely become detached, selfish... separatists.

    If the ship sinks (America)... we've lost something exceedingly beneficial to ALL.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    ZERO voters should be impeded or targeted for disenfranchisement (concerning voting). Actually, biometrics and a signature and a regular picture ID would suffice in most counties. The 'relative' difficulty imposed by select voter ID laws, disproportionately affects the poorest people (most of whom are Black and elderly); that was not a randomly chosen 'effect' by GOP lawmakers in the places where such laws are being passed and pushed into enforcement.

    And it is a FACT that certain voter ID laws are implemented in such a manner as to cause greater inconvenience to the poor (of which a significantly greater proportion are Blacks/minorities) and even the elderly.

    If those on the Right (implementing such legislation) cannot win by promoting their ideas to the American people, they aren't being realistic. People WILL throw them out on their heads... one way or the other, sooner or later. You cannot fool all of the people, in perpetuity.
     
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    I usually just "challenge" some "superiority" and take to a "superiority committee" for further action.
     
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    Reaping time for ? I'm sure those that don't want to be hear today can go back , or are we just talking ?
     
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    in my view (I worked as an engineer) there is no such thing as instinctive "racism" (a hate speech word invented by Leon Trotsky).
    How could a group develop an instinct about people they are not in contact with? Almost by definition the different races evolved by not being in contact with each other.
    How ever it seems clear to me that most people (extreme liberals are an exception) like to live among their own kind.
    So this instinct must be only about how closely genetically related people are.
    People separate out by genetically related clans. What we have is not "racism" but "clanism".
    However, when Europeans first sailed the oceans, they realized right quick that aboriginals peoples in other parts of the world were not from their clan.:salute:
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    People just have to stop selling/buying the insane/evil notion that "they" and those they view as "their kind" are all that makes the world go round.

    Reality has never been that and most likely never will be. In 2016, you're just being 'toxic' and abjectly regressive... if you are about discriminating against other groups/ethnicities.

    Truth is... we're ALL in this TOGETHER.
     
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    For a new mother the child she gave birth to is what makes the world go round.
    It's a similar if less intense feeling that I have for people who are related to me; my counsins, nephews and fellow whites.:salute:
     
  8. Johnny-C

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    Get over it... slowly, if you have to.

    I understand that perspective, but it isn't all that defines the overall reality in which we must all live. There is 'more' to it.
     
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    Racism is learned. It is not instinctual.
     
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    Racism is as old as human kind itself. In the days before courts and juries and judges, if a stranger happened onto your land, you killed him, period. Humans have never and likely will not completely change. It is normal for children especially to shy away from strangers. The very idea that racism does not occur on its own is ludicrous.

    Your screen name started 593 years before Christ. Bigotry cannot end because one cannot change what is in another's heart. But when it comes to bigotry, it is based on those differences. I have actually run into some in the various forum who acknowledge racism is bigotry, yet they think it is quite OK to be bigoted toward anyone else's religion. IE the poop keeps piling up.
     
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    False. Race Is a relatively recent construct used by Europeans to justify their global expansion. Shying away from strangers is not the same as viewing one stranger differently from another based on the color of their skin. Racism is learned, not instinctual.
     
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    Nor are they ever likely to look for a job . Take a stroll by any welfare office building and you will see these poor soul walking in with $200 sneakers , $1500 gold chains , $2000 diamond earrings and the caddie waiting double parked .

    "One's philosophy is not best expressed in words; it is expressed in the choices one makes... and the choices we make are ultimately our responsibility."
    Eleanor Roosevelt
     
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    Yes there is more, actually a heck of a lot more. ASSIMILATION of minorities would go a long way in bringing ALL of the people together.
     
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    Bigotry and racism are not the same. Religion is a choice, skin color is not. What someone believes tells you something about who that person is. A person's skin color doesn't.
     
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    Isn't it also time for the 'majority' to correct problems within itself and actually 'improve' things?

    How long does America (all of us) have to wait for that? Irrational animus and xenophobia directed at immigrants and minorities is a VERY old approach, that has netted this society only increased pain and sorrow. We're STILL digging out from that sh__ as we speak. The majority is literally COMPLICIT in the issues we are all observing. It's always specious, to opine about America's problems, and somehow auto-recess contributions (to the same) by Whites (to be direct) to aid in 'comforting' the social sensibilities of the same; a form of political/social correctness that almost no one admits to.

    Wake up, American "majority"!!! And do it NOW!!
     
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    True!!!
     
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    That's incorrect. Racism exist by nature, and, it is not just based on the color of a person. We define ourselves as humans based on those around us. Personally I do not have the patients to deal with the mentally retarded or mentally ill. Does this make me racist against them? Maybe so, even though color isn't even an issue. This same principal is part of life when dealing with the color of a person, because, color itself is defined by society as a different cultural demographic. So, when the world decides to coexist as humans and not cultural groups then, and only then, will racism cease to exist. My conclusion in the OP is to create a steeping stone based on obvious cultural qualities that may lead to the end of racism.
     
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    False. Racism is based on skin color. Europeans defined the modern concept of race centuries ago and it is based on skin color. It is not instinctual or natural. You can't end racism by pretending it's something else.
     
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    My point is that racism exists because people may not like the culture or cultural actions of a particular group. This is by far the reasoning of racists. I have heard all the theories and have come to this conclusion. We are equal as humans but at the same time our inequality is obvious. I don't care who defined the term racist, it's time for people to wake up, and, we are gradually doing so. Do you deny that the different races around the US define themselves by their cultural identities?
     
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    Until all cultures, races, religions assimilate to the mainstream economy AND CULTURE, there will aways be a disparity. The answer plain and simple, ASSIMILATE, ASSIMILATE, ASSIMILATE.
     
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    Personally, I do not believe in assimilation. Individuality makes more sense to me.
     
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    Black Americans will be socioeconomically equal when they stop depending on everyone else to solve the problems for them. There is no government program that creates self-motivation in people.
     
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    If you're born poor, there's overwhelming odds saying you're going to die poor. A disproportionate amount of black people are born poor.

    But of course, you've been eating out of the "If you're poor, you deserve it" trash can.
     
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    Yea, cause no one born poor in this country becomes financially successful. :roll:

    Please, give your tired ass argument a rest for once.
     
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    Black Americans will never be socioeconomically till they change behavior and life style. You can't go around with chips on your shoulder, and you can't be equal when your raising over 70% of your children without fathers to help support them and guide their lives. Your sentencing them to a world of poverty and crime. Both which has an impact on racism.
     

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