Rape allegations hurt Bill Cosby but sail past Bill Clinton

I know you can't provide any proof that Democrats covered up anything for Cosby so I won't ask .....that ridiculous idea exposes itself.

 

It all depends how you look at things, I suppose. America has a history of righting wrongs, and fixing the broken. It just doesnt always happen when it should.

Bill Cosby is a conservative, and thats why hes being attacked.

These allegations didnt happen yesterday. Theyre not new.

democrats wanna force him into the shadows, so he cant speak.

 

I must have missed 15 women claiming Bill Clinton drugged and raped them.

 

Actually America has a history of stopping wrongs, because in many cases the wrongs were never righted they were just stopped. The Justice System hasn't been fixed........yet.

Bill Cosby is a hypocrite and a clown and the only reason conservatives are trying to defend him is because he has been their "boy".

 

For decades Bill Cosby has been speaking out about how African Americans should act in public. Hell he did a TV show in the 70s for kids about it. Bill Cosby, like many others, had a public life that was amazing and full of opinion and bucked the system and a private life that was a little darker. I am saddened by the latest allegations against him. They are terrible but there is a good deal of evidence that they are true. Yes, people seemed to ignore previous allegations. Why? Because we do that in our society. We give people a pass. Conservatives too. Hell, they elected to leadership rolls people who cheated on their wives using state money to do it. To suggest only liberals do this is not only lying.....it is down right evil in intent. A raging form of bigotry.

As for Clinton, I have always had a sense of contempt for his attitude about women and it has been clearly something that needs to be attached to him throughout his public life. But here is the thing. Some of the accusations made against him stunk of politics more than fact (and no I don't think there are 16 women who claim he raped them). It is easy to dismiss certain allegations without proof in the climate created by a right wing noise machine that accused Clinton of everything from doing drugs in the White House to murder. The right wing noise machine was in its infancy at the time and they didn't just cry wolf, they said the wolf was wearing an Iron Man suit and raping the sheep before taking them to be eaten by minions of Satan. So.............

Cosby can answer the allegations. If true they are disturbing and he should be dealt with. If false the women involved should be prosecuted. In inconclusive we will have to see what our own personal balance sheet will be on how we will treat him moving forward.


I remember maybe 25 years ago hearing him speak about the role of black men in families. He was roundly criticized for it but had people like Alan Pouisant and others saying the same thing. It was harsh criticism of the black community at the time not unlike today. To suggest that these women coming forward is the result of something some of you found out about last year is nonsense. As a much you would like to believe some conspiracy the fact remains, he has been an advocate for more responsiblity of black males since the 70s. To say otherwise is either dishonest or ignorant.

 

obama is a scumbag and hes president.

I trust bill cosby more than I trust obama.

I watched the cosby show, hes like Americas dad.

 

They sailed pastclinton

His impeachment had nothing to do with the allegations of rape

Clinton is a left wing god and all regressive liberals defend him even IF he were a rapist

 

I look at bill cosby, like a father figure.

Go back and read this thread, democrats demonize bill cosby, and defend bill clinton.

Its a joke.

 

Oh yeah, that really worked out well for those Bill Clinton sexually assaulted

Women have been charging Bill Clinton with sexual assault since his days as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford 30 years ago.

A continuing investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing home operator, told NBC's Lisa Myers five weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC shelved the interview, saying they were confirming all parts of the story, but finally aired it Wednesday night.

Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President, followed by The Washington Post and some other publications.

But Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that Broaddrick's story is only one account of many attempted and actual sexual assaults by Clinton that go back 30 years. Among the other incidents:

Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case; In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name; In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students; Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape; From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening; Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room." Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her. Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment. Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run. Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault. Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public. In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

''There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma,'' he said. ''But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it.''

Miss Wellstone, who is now married and lives near London, confirmed the incident when contacted this week, but refused to discuss the matter further. She said she would not go public with further details of the attack. Afterwards, she changed her phone number and hired a barrister who warned a reporter to stay away from his client.

In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford University for a "European Tour" in 1969 and was told by University officials that he was no longer welcome there. Aldrich said Clinton's academic record at Oxford was lackluster. Clinton later accepted a scholarship for Yale Law School and did not complete his studies at Oxford.

The State Department official who investigated the incident said Clinton's interests appeared to be drinking, drugs and sex, not studies.

"I came away from the incident with the clear impression that this was a young man who was there to party, not study," he said.

Oxford officials refused comment. The State Department also refused to comment on the incident. A Freedom of Information request filed by Capitol Hill Blue failed to turn up any records of the incident.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Miss James, the Washington fundraiser who confirmed the encounter with Clinton at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington, but first said she would not appear publicly because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

''My husband and children deserve better than that,'' she said when first contacted two weeks ago. After reading the Broaddrick story Friday, however, she called back and gave permission to use her maiden name, but said she had no intention of pursuing the matter.

"I wasn't raped, but I was trapped in a hotel room for a brief moment by a boorish man," she said. "I got away. He tried calling me several times after that, but I didn't take his phone calls. Then he stopped. I guess he moved on."

But Miss James also retreated from public view this week after other news organizations contacted her.

The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."

Like two other women, the former Miss Moffet declined further interviews. A neighbor said she had received threatening phone calls.

The other encounters were confirmed with more than 30 interviews with retired Arkansas state employees, former state troopers and former Yale and University of Arkansas students. Like others, they refused to go public because of fears of retaliation from the Clinton White House.

Likewise, the mainstream media has shied away from the Broaddrick story. Initially, only The Drudge Report and other Internet news sites have actively pursued it. Since initial publication of this story, a few mainstream media outlets have expressed interest in interviewing the women.

 

It depends on lots of things but as long as you have money you will be much better off in the eyes of the law. OJ Simpson was able to buy his way out of prison by hiring a team of lawyers and consultants that fixed the trial.

 

We had a family friend that was a news anchor in Arkansas back when Clinton was Governor, she knew all about his conquests, it didn't matter she still supported him.

or little boys......

http://nypost.com/2013/10/19/the-childhood-hell-of-the-lost-boys/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-sex-abuse-film-revealed-748375

 

I am amazed when I hear that OJ somehow fixed the trial, but Zimmerman's jury was just doing their civic duty.

 

Please explain how he is a scumbag.

I wouldn't if I were a woman alone in a room with him.

Yea he's like America's dad, as long as, he keeps doing and saying what you want him to.

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The only reason conservative whites defend Bill Cosby is because you can parade him out front to attack black.

 

If you are of low moral fiber, it pays to be a democrat.

 

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1. [video=youtube;zPVl96-fVM0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPVl96-fVM0[/video]

2. Thats bullcrap, and I dont believe that for a second.

3. Youre correct analysis has been proven true, by the left handed attacks on bill cosby, now. These allegations arent new, theyre years and year old. Youre not allowed to hear what bill cosby has to say. The media wont allow it. Why do you think that is? He might come out and make a total ass outta himself, but you dont get to hear that either.

4. Im not parading bill cosby anywhere. Its the media crucifying bill cosbys character, not me.

 

So you are basically saying that these woman are lying and that it is all just a ploy by Democrats to smear Bill Cosby. Is that pretty much the jest of the matter.

 

It's more accurate to say that Cosby will not be supported by liberals in his defense against the charges because Cosby is not a key factor in obtaining or maintaining political power. He's not an office holder or candidate, he's just an entertainer. He's dispensable. Someone like Clinton is not.

 

Cosby is being brought down by progressives and feminist for daring to call out blacks on their love of thug culture.

 

There was only one woman who accused Clinton of any illegal activity, the charge was a tort claim of sexual harassment, and it received a summary judgement of dismissal because Paula Jones did no show evidence of damages. The merits of the case never saw a judgement or a jury verdict and the parties settled out of court. Neither Flowers nor Lewinsky accused Clinton of anything legally improper in their affairs. Clinton was accused of lying about a material fact during a civil deposition (perjury-lite) and obstruction of justice in impeachment proceedings and acquitted on the obstruction charge with a recommendation of a motion to censor for the perjury and general misconduct. The Arkansas Bar subsequently suspended his license to practice law for several years for the perjury.

We still do not know what actually happened in the Paula Jones case or whether the conduct was sufficiently egregious to sustain a charge of sexual harassment or assault, because the actual facts are still in question and and the evidence was not conclusively weighed by either a judge or jury. Clinton was held legally culpable for the charges that sustained a burden of proof. Beyond that we know that he is a philandering lecher who will lie to get out of the doghouse. That's all about his personal life.

He is revered by many for political/ professional accomplishments and by others for his proficiency and political acumen as an advocate for his beliefs.

 

And Al Sharpton has gotten a free pass on $4,500,000 in unpaid taxes and the possible fathering of a baby not by his wife. I guess being a black conservative is problematic. Remember the e-lynching of Clarence Thomas?

 

Can you people get much more ridiculous??????????????????????

 

The fact is this has nothing to do with politics. Another fact is these same posters who defend things like, "legitimate rape", don't have a dime of moral capital to spend on this issue.

Bill Cosby will go through the legal process like anyone else. When the evidence is laid bare, then the time to judge will be appropriate.

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I think you already know the answer to that question.

These same posters, that were immediate quick to prop up Cosby as a self helping black man, are now making this a political issue where one doesn't exist.

 

Times have changed, 40yrs ago the same folks who are supporting Bill Cosby would have been ready to hang him from a tree if 2 or 3 white women would have claimed he raped them.

 

I suspect that Cosby had many women .. and I suspect they were groupies. Doesn't make it right even for an iconic figure like Cosby.. but the escapades are probably true.

 

It is amazing how quickly we forget:

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing home operator, told NBC's Lisa Myers five weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC shelved the interview, saying they were confirming all parts of the story, but finally aired it Wednesday night.

Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President, followed by The Washington Post and some other publications.

But Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that Broaddrick's story is only one account of many attempted and actual sexual assaults by Clinton that go back 30 years. Among the other incidents:

Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case; In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name; In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students; Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape; From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening; Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room." Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her. Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment. Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run. Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault. Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public. In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

''There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma,'' he said. ''But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it.''

Miss Wellstone, who is now married and lives near London, confirmed the incident when contacted this week, but refused to discuss the matter further. She said she would not go public with further details of the attack. Afterwards, she changed her phone number and hired a barrister who warned a reporter to stay away from his client.

In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford University for a "European Tour" in 1969 and was told by University officials that he was no longer welcome there. Aldrich said Clinton's academic record at Oxford was lackluster. Clinton later accepted a scholarship for Yale Law School and did not complete his studies at Oxford.

The State Department official who investigated the incident said Clinton's interests appeared to be drinking, drugs and sex, not studies.

"I came away from the incident with the clear impression that this was a young man who was there to party, not study," he said.

Oxford officials refused comment. The State Department also refused to comment on the incident. A Freedom of Information request filed by Capitol Hill Blue failed to turn up any records of the incident.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Miss James, the Washington fundraiser who confirmed the encounter with Clinton at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington, but first said she would not appear publicly because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

''My husband and children deserve better than that,'' she said when first contacted two weeks ago. After reading the Broaddrick story Friday, however, she called back and gave permission to use her maiden name, but said she had no intention of pursuing the matter.

"I wasn't raped, but I was trapped in a hotel room for a brief moment by a boorish man," she said. "I got away. He tried calling me several times after that, but I didn't take his phone calls. Then he stopped. I guess he moved on."

But Miss James also retreated from public view this week after other news organizations contacted her.

The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."

Like two other women, the former Miss Moffet declined further interviews. A neighbor said she had received threatening phone calls.

The other encounters were confirmed with more than 30 interviews with retired Arkansas state employees, former state troopers and former Yale and University of Arkansas students. Like others, they refused to go public because of fears of retaliation from the Clinton White House.

Likewise, the mainstream media has shied away from the Broaddrick story. Initially, only The Drudge Report and other Internet news sites have actively pursued it. Since initial publication of this story, a few mainstream media outlets have expressed interest in interviewing the women.