Rape allegations hurt Bill Cosby but sail past Bill Clinton

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    So finally you want to look at an orange in the bag. From wiki:

    "In 1997, Broaddrick had filed an affidavit with Paula Jones' lawyers that stated: "During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies."[1] In a November 1998 interview with Dateline NBC, Broaddrick claimed the earlier statement was a lie and she had indeed been raped by Clinton.[

    ...Five people have stated that Broaddrick told them about a rape shortly after it allegedly occurred. Of these, two were Broaddrick's co-worker Norma Kelsey and her sister; Slate Explainer proposes that they may have a grudge against Clinton for commuting the sentence of the man who killed their father, noting further that a third corroborator is Broaddrick's current husband, who was involved in an extramarital affair with her at the time. Broaddrick did not tell her then-husband, Gary Hickey, of the alleged assault at the time.[6]
    Broaddrick claimed she did not remember the exact date or even year in which she was allegedly raped, but she did supply the name of the hotel (Camelot), and the reason she was visiting Little Rock (a nursing home seminar) when the incident had allegedly occurred.[6] NBC News found that a nursing conference was held in the Camelot Hotel on April 25, 1978. The hotel was located in the state capital, where news reports indicate Clinton was that day, also suggesting that he had no known official commitments that morning. The Clinton White House declined to release his official schedule for the date.[5] Three weeks after this date, Broaddrick attended a Clinton fundraiser. According to The Wall Street Journal (February 19, 1999, p. A18), "Her [Broaddrick's] friend Norma Rogers, a nurse who had accompanied her on the trip", found Broaddrick distraught shortly after the time of the alleged attack.[4]

    According to Jack Nelson, Washington bureau chief of the Los Angeles Times, many journalists were skeptical: "This is a story that's been knocked down and discredited so many times, I was shocked to see it in the [Wall Street] Journal today.... [E]veryone's taken a slice of it, and after looking at it, everyone's knocked it down. The woman has changed her story about whether it happened. It just wasn't credible."[8] Joe Conason and Gene Lyons' book The Hunting of the President argued that Broaddrick's claim is not credible and contains numerous inconsistencies. Michael Isikoff's book, Uncovering Clinton, and Christopher Hitchens' book, No One Left to Lie To, argued that Broaddrick's claim is credible and shows similarities to Paula Jones' later allegation of sexual harassment.

    Do you see some serious problems here with the assault accusation and the credibility of this woman and her witness list? Here's another link of value http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/1999/03/is_juanita_broaddrick_telling_the_truth.html
     
  2. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Can you pull up the post where I said Bill Cosby's speeches were racist.
     
  3. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just like Cosby is unfounded rumors, stop with your silly orange story, Bill put his dip stick anywhere he could, and that may be the same story with Cosby. It is the hypocrisy from the left that I find repulsive
     
  4. btthegreat

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    Did you happen to notice this line "... Michael Isikoff's book, Uncovering Clinton, and Christopher Hitchens' book, No One Left to Lie To, argued that Broaddrick's claim is credible and shows similarities to Paula Jones' later allegation of sexual harassment." Well that is true as long as we buy Broaddricks first story of un-coerced sex that may have elements of sexual harassment. Paula Jones never said one word about an assault or being forced, or of being drugged. She denied those elements of the conduct consistently just as Broaddrick did in her original affidavit.

    Clinton put his dipstick anywhere he could, no doubt about it, but he has never has credibly been accused of rape, because as much of a lowlife sexual scum as he may be, he is too much of a physical or practical coward to try to coerce anyone and he has never been accused of using any date rape drugs that might make rape or assault less risky. What Cosby is being accused of repeatedly, is not consistent at all with the Clinton pattern with Jones, Flowers, Lewinsky or the original version of Broaddricks story.

    None of this makes Cosby guilty of squat, because none of this has been vetted even as far as some of these nasty little peccadilloes of Clinton. They remain just what you claim, unfounded rumors. What is making people so nervous is that these disparate stories by different women over such along time each involve an element of force and/ or drug use when we know he was around an atmosphere where that specific drug was part of the Hollywood scene and he is on record talking about its use to get women vulnerable for sex. This is about more than where Cosby put his dipstick. Its about the state he may have put these women into, to get that dipstick wet.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you pull up the post where I said YOU did? Bill Cosby isn't the racist. Now answer the question I asked. It was a simple on point valid question.
     
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    Even if there was a Real lesson here,the Mod edit,,flounder 2 will manage
    somehow to pass the buck and lay blame elsewhere.Maybe somehow
    someway Cosby was made to do whatever he did to those galsy
    by some republican influence.That is the degree to which this country
    has been dumbdowned and played for stooges.
    That nothing is ever really the fault of Democrats or Liberals.
    Because they Care too much.They Own Compassion.
    I know that is the basic rule behind Bob Beckle.Beckle can hate
    all day and night on Rich Conservatives { they don't count for squat
    in his hard hat head } but Boy when it comes to the Poor or Minority,
    Beckle is ALL ears.All heartfelt concern.Beckle being the stereotypical
    Liberal.It's been a liberal con since the 60's and L.B.J. { a bigot }
    trotted out his Great Society plan of Welfare.
    Unless one believes Bob Beckle isn't concerned about Elections and
    who to vote for.What a con.Which was the entire rationale for
    L.B.J. " I'll have them " N****** " voting Democratic for the next
    200 years. " - L.B.J.
     
  7. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I will give you this, your point above removes you from the category of hypocrisy. We will see how this plays out with Cosby, because we know how it played out with Clinton, his popularity is higher than ever.
     
  8. superbadbrutha

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    Where did any of that come from, we are talking about speeches about black folks made by Bill Cosby. It depends on what they are saying as to whether or not its racist.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have avoided the on point valid question twice now. I have won the argument.
     
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    Yup - have you seen the way Democrats still cheer that scumbag?

    Yeah - he lied under oath. Did he go to jail for that?

    Congressional wrist-slaps are a far cry from what Susan McDougal went through...
     
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    Hummm...racism from the press who claims they are not racist...or Clearance Thomas 2.0...
     
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    One word: Nixon.
     
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    Are you proud that Obama is often compared to Nixon? :)

    Back to Bill Clinton, I don't recall Nixon becoming the éminence grise of his party after he left office. On the other hand, Democrats still trot Slick Willy out to address their presidential conventions, make appearances at campaign rallies and pitch their party and its agenda.
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Sigh. Quit doing that please. No, liberals are not ok with that any more than pubs are.
     
  15. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why are so many defending Clinton? He is a piece of lying fecal matter, yet liberals revere the ground he walks on. Republicans most always get rid of their own when they act that way, liberals give them a promotion
     
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    That is the point right there. The whole of O'Bama's administration has been disinformation, obfuscation, and outright deceit. It's the America hating progressive neo-communist leftist way.
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Not me. He looks that creepy old dude that parents tell their kids to stay away from.
    :roflol:

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    Blah blah blah....yes repubs are oh-so-innocent. :bored:
     
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    I didn't say that. So I do not see how you read that in my post. Barrack Husseini Imam O'Bama Black Eagle is a fricking liar in all his ways and words and in his putrid character. That is what I was saying.
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    You know holding your emotions in like that isnt good.for your health. Let it alllll out! :nana: :grin:
     
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    In a previous life before I was reincarnated you would have agreed with that. But, in your heart of hearts, you know I'm right.
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Ummmm ok. I was teasing you. Does no one have a funny bone anymore?
     
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    It was hard to tell. Coupled with earlier posts in context contempt and disrespect was the recieved message. Sorry I misread your humor.
     
  23. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are so right, and their lemmings could care less, in fact, they support those lies

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    Good for you, you are rare
     
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    Nixon committed several felonies and Republicans completely ignore this fact.
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Side note: have you ever heard wanda sykes talk about michael jackson? I laughed til i had tears. Look it up. Itll make you laugh.
     

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