Record Cold Forces Rethink on Global Warming

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask Xplorer. You're not following the conversation - ripping children from their parents is about climate change?
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They're not my fellow Americans-----they're liberals who voted to allow infanticide.
    Why don't you Xplore a newspaper sometime and read up on it?
     
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    I don't really know how to respond to this. We are not denying people their natural human Rights. Recognizing that you are a citizen of a nation, and must seek permission from a foreign host nation, before entering it, or residing within their borders, is also not a violation of your human rights, it's showing respect for their Rights.

    Do we, or do we not, as a people of a sovereign nation, have the Right to enact our own immigration laws, to control who is allowed to cross our borders and reside in our country? Yes, we do. Those people who knowingly reside in our country in violation our immigration laws, have committed a crime.

    Calling ICE tyrants because they are lawfully enforcing US federal law, is absurd.
     
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    And you count yourself with the conservatives who kidnapped children & infants from their parents at our border & failed to keep the records necessary for later reuniting them? And that's OK with you?

    By the way. . .liberals don't condone murder or infanticide. A fetus is not legally a "human being, infant, or citizen" with protected rights until it becomes viable. Since a fetus is legally not an infant, your charge is groundless, and spiteful.

    Lastly, if we liberals are no longer your "fellow Americans," you're doing a good job of dividing our nation. Following in Trump's footsteps, are you? :worry:
     
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    I'm not attacking the idea of passing laws to protect our borders. I support that. I'm not attacking border guards who risk their very lives to protect our borders. They do a valuable service. I'm an American who abhors violence & the abrogation of civil rights against anyone. ICE went overboard in carrying out orders from their superiors regarding intercepting & controlling illegal immigrants entering the U.S. Border guards have been doing that job successfully for decades without splitting families & kidnapping children and even infants from their parents arms, then incarcerating both parents & children in separate detention sites. That's new, and the manner it was carried out is reminiscent of the treatment of the Jews in pre-war Germany. That's not the American way, nor should it be. Recently, ICE was in charge of two children who became sick during incarceration, and died before medical care was approved and put into motion. Again, this is not something America should be doing to innocent children, and it makes America look like atrocious people. ICE has exceeded its authority, and abused its authority. Liberals aren't against border security. Liberals are against civil rights abuse. So am I.
     
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    Didn’t you hear Trumps message?

    He wants America to unite
     
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    !. Shielding incarcerated illegals from ICE, or granting driver's licenses is not restricted to so-called dreamers. It is protecting illegals of any stripe od arrest record.
    2. Obama was Johnny-on-the-spot whenever a crises of any sort occurred that involved a black person to condemn whatever happened before he even knew (or cared) what happened.
    5. When Jeff Bezos, for example, creates $10 billion in wealth, how do you think that should be distributed? Who should determine and do the distribution? Should the possessors of the 10,000 jobs he created receive any of the largess or should it all go to people unrelated to Amazon's business? Since his wealth is tied up in Amazon stock should he be forced to divest himself of whatever stock value the executor wants to distribute? And who will come out way ahead after Bezos has created this wealth and it has been doled out?
     
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    I wonder if you have any idea how truly you speak.
    Rather than lament that your comrades are being unjustly disparaged, you would do better to reflect on the possibility that your conduct here serves to validate such disparagement.
     
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    Europe saw terrible heatwaves last 2 weeks.
     
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    We just experienced the hottest June since they began keeping weather records???Alaska is over 90 degrees on a regular basis now??Anyone that thinks the weather we have experienced this year in the USA is typical, needs their head examined.
     
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    I don't really think there are too many people who would argue that climate change is an on going process that has occurred since the dawn of time. The records climatologist's have kept over hundreds of years proves that. Where we disagree is whether or not man has any responsibility for it, or can even cause it. My personal opinion is that man is arrogant to think he can change, or alter anything that God has created. We know from scripture that there will come a time in the last days, otherwise know as the Tribulation, that God will send his judgement to the earth through nature and the heavens.
     
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    this discussion is about science, not religion.
     
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    I was illustrating why I think man is arrogant to think he can change, alter, or effect what God has made!
     
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    Pumpkin picking weather data like that article does is just proof of willingness to pander - or worse.

    It even starts out with thefalse story about why the scientific term is "climate change" .

    It talks about more snowfall, but those in our "lake effect" region know that warmer temperatures allow for more moisture in the air and thus MORE snowfall.
     
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    off topic......your avatar makes me sick.
     
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    Why would anyone go to a religion site and expect to find science?

    Why does Christianity care about how warm it is?

    I'm just curious why a religious site would choose to refute the findings of science from around this entire world.
     
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    And this discussion is about science not my avatar
     
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    What I don't understand is what qualifications you could have that would allow for disputing what scientists from around the world have concluded.

    You don't actually need to tell me about your qualifications. The point is that no single individual has that kind of overarching expertise and/or authority even after having spent a lifetime on this one subject.
     
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    well, while we're off topic, you might like this one! Your avatar is distracting and disgusting. How is anyone going to take you serious?[​IMG]
     
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    It really does take more than a lifetime. The trick liberals have up their sleeve is that not everyone is a scientist. They can tell us anything they want and we MUST accept it. That is how they control us through fear. Common sense is the great leveler. History tells us there has been mini ice ages in the past. There has been times of severe drought and heat. Tornadoes and hurricanes can be terrifying when you're in them. There are awful floods in New Orleans and Miami (which by the way, one was built below sea level and the other displaced a swamp) Just because the News Media is on your side (global socialists) you will not capture the hearts and minds of most of us. Just those that submit there own observations and conclusions to the elite that wants power over us all.
     
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    I saw an interesting article about the next glaciation period. Since the trigger in and out of glaciation is not an exact science even though Milankovic cycle are known, it cannot be determined when it will happen. There are many other variables and one of the variables is the moon. The article was about just missing one of these windows and the next will be in 400 years so we may have a respite. Time to start producing CO2 to help delay it because if you want to see large scale destruction of the human race, wait until glaciation, a natural limiter of population.
     
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    Yes, we're fine with taking kids away from people who a) abuse them by putting them in such danger and b) often aren't even related to the person who actually kidnapped them.

    Please tell me more about how you'd like to ensure cartels keep exploiting these people and human trafficking is even more lucrative.
     
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    YOU are asking that?
     
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    No, there are well known safer places for them here in the US.

    And, you have NO idea if they are safer where they came from.

    And, it's LUDICROUS to think that they are safer when we force them to go back to live on the streets of northern Mexico while we DON'T process their applications.

    If there were a kidnapping issue, that oculd be resolved. But, there is NO effort going into that. So, your last sentence is devoid of any meaning.
     
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