Reparations for slavery

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The massive destruction and lose of life in the Civil War was reparations. Maybe those whites whose family members were killed or crippled fighting in the Union Army are owned reparations for blacks who are the prodigy of slaves.
     
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    No, by maybe paying to costs of LBJ's Great Society social program to get blacks into a broken homes generational welfare life style. He said that was his goal. Just enough to trap blacks in dependency on government so they will perpetually vote Democrat like angry street beggars - the Democrat endless goal of racial segregation and their new version of keeping blacks on the plantation.

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    If anyone owes reparations, it is the Democratic Party.
     
  3. BillRM

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    Sorry but that area of the world had sadly been screw up long before the
    US became a nation and even long before the western Atlantic slave trade got going in any meaningful way.

    Hmm given that we still have and will have for a number of months longer a two terms president that is member of the group of 3 rate citizens there is something wrong or at least highly oversimplify with your statement about blacks being just 3 rate citizens. Oh please take note that he have a higher standing in the polls compare to the two whites who are running to replace him.
     
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    Will not fly as there was a large numbers of blacks who fought in the Union Army and at half pay to the white soldiers and under threat by the south that they would not treat such soldiers as soldiers but would instead killed them if capture.
     
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    You do remember that it took about 100 years after the Civil War before blacks had real civil rights that couldn't be denied through loopholes, right? That's what I meant.

    Blacks fighting in the Union didn't stop them from being lynched by the Klan. Or anyone that wasn't a white Christian.
     
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    LOL the KKK had it wing clip a number of times by the federal government starting right after the civil war with clam members being either shot or hung by federal troops with many of those troops being black for that matter but as the white southerns regain power in some areas of the south the clan was sadly reborn.

    Voting rights for blacks to our shame are still being interfere with also to this very day.

    To sum up history is never simple or one sided but in my opinion even in the deep south there was never a time when blacks would had been better off in Africa then the US.

    footnote one of the worst punishments for a slave in the US was to be sold to a buyer in the Caribbean and that was held over their heads even more so then the whip.
     
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    The concept of race is mythical. And like all myths, the only thing it requires is belief. This is common knowledge as race has no logical basis...every construct that attempts to imbue race with a coherent argument ultimately contradicts itself or fails on the burden of scientific evidence.

    Race is a religion that was invented likely sometime in the 1600s.
     
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    Just found a $537 round trip to Lagos for vacation. But don't get too excited, tis a round trip so I will be returning :smile:
     
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    In several of the posts you’ve written, I’ve noticed that you feel free to curse white forum members (while at the same time, somehow expecting others to show you respect). So, I’ll return the favor using your own words:

    “I think a well placed “f8ck you” is more appropriate for you misguided” idiots who are forever wanting something for nothing. Grow up, get a job, earn your own money, forget about begging for reparations for work YOU did NOT do.

    But, feel free to keep cursing people. It does show you can take a guy out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of the guy.
     
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    Think "treating minnorities like sht" only happens here? There are some horrible things in our history, no doubt. BUT, similar happenings can be found in countries around the world. Think about the atrocities that have been committed in Africa, for instance. Genocide, anyone? Of course you can find it there. Slavery? Sure, you can find it there, too. Corruption? Plenty. Incompetence? It’s everywhere, of course. Ignorance? To the rafters. The information is out there, if you really are interested in truth, rather than simply blaming others for all your shortcomings.

    BLM types try to act as if blacks are angels, while always painting whites as devils. But that's just a crock of over-used crap, designed to help them avoid taking any responsibility for their own actions, yet again. African history shows blacks to be among the most barbaric people who have ever walked on this planet. Thankfully they have never progressed to the point of being able to export their barbarity to many other places.

    Have fun blaming white people for your every failure. But, truly, if you ever, seriously, want to improve your lives you’re going to have to do what every other group has had to do: WORK for it. Notice the things that are NEVER mentioned, by black folks, when these topics come up: personal responsibility, work ethic, self-reliance, values, ethics, principals. Instead, it’s always the SOS: blame whitey, white privilege, white supremacy, racism. And always more blaming of whitey for not pouring (read wasting) ever more money and other resources into black communities. How can you possibly expect things to get better when all you ever do is point fingers at others, riot, and burn things down?
     
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    I curse at a bunch of you because quite a few of you think you're fit to tell other people about racism and lecture them about everything as if you actually know what being black in America is like. You've also been under the impression that everything is simple as you say it is and all hunky-dorry just because you fought a war that resulted in freed slaves. Good for you.

    I'd like to be the first to point out that we don't live in Africa. That's not my continent or place of birth and those aren't my borders. Do you think saying "well that happens everywhere" is supposed to negate things happening here?

    And you wonder why I drop a "fcuk you" every so often. I wouldn't lecture anyone about "barbaric peoples," not when good ol' Europeans took it upon themselves to colonize/ravage/decimate entire continents and cultures, just ask King Leopold II.

    Just because you won't sit with an actual black person and have a conversation doesn't mean these things aren't talked about.

    Although since you mentioned white privilege it's nice to see you showing it off right now by thinking you know better than black people, completely ignoring the fact that you will never have to experience the type of (*)(*)(*)(*) black people deal with daily.
     
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    True. Mostly because I've never allowed myself to sulk, and feel sorry for myself, and act like a perpetual victim. I've never had that luxury, I had to get out and work, and if I wanted something changed I had to work to get it changed. Whining has never been a characteristic I find attractive. So, in that sense, you're right, I don't know how the typical street black, who chooses to live with a victim mentality, feels. But I know how to improve things in my own life, and that's obviously more than many blacks know.

    I pointed out that horrible things happen in MANY countries. You act as if you're the only people who have had problems. Hell, jews were made slaves, then murdered, then burned in ovens. Get over yourselves, already. The victim sh!t is disgusting and worn out. You really have to find a way to grow past it, otherwise things will never improve for you. What you think, determines what you are. If you think you're a loser, then you're right - and no one can change that. But you DON'T have to think that way, it's your choice. You're the one hanging onto the loser mentality. Only YOU can change that.

    You'd be amazed at how many hours I've spent with black people. But most of the blacks I know have worked and studied hard to get where they are. They're not losers and they're not whiners. And, by the way, they don't like whiners, either.

    That is such a load of sh!t. Just nasty, stupid, ridiculous, tired, old, steaming, sh!t. It's a simpleton's way to shut other people down. A loser's answer - a way to try and get the upper hand in an argument they can't win. Sorry for you, that you have to stoop to such old, stupid, crap. You have no idea what I've had to go through. All you have are your worthless assumptions (and you know what they say about those). And, you have no idea about how many black people I know, or how well I know them, or the countless hours I've spent with them, or what our relationships are, or how many decades I've known many of them. In short, you don't know sh!t. You're forever blathering on about black things as if you're the world's foremost expert on being black. You're not. You CANNOT speak for every black. You can only speak for yourself.
     
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    Join the club. Lots of people have to work and make things happen on their own and eventually get by. Doesn't mean there's no stigma attached to black people because....black.

    No one said only black people had horrible things happen, I'm saying that you can't just downplay something that happened because something else happened to other people.

    Good for them. I happen to be among those study-hard folks, too. Just because you do good so far doesn't mean you can't get stopped, frisked or harassed for no reason.

    I'm black too, for what its worth and just because you know or hang out with black people doesn't prove or disprove anything. You can be friends with them all your damn life, that doesn't mean you'll experience some of the (*)(*)(*)(*) that only they or black people as a whole know about.
     
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    Maybe you should consider the effect on the supreme court by not voting for Trump. A vote for anyone else will in fact achieve a major change that will insure the demise of conservative politics. No other issue matters in this cycle.
     
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    Blacks do not deserve a penny of my tax dollars because my family had nothing to do with slavery. Besides how can we pay dead people and why the hell should anyone alive today receive anything from a matter that happened almost 200 years ago?
     
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    The greatest crime the world has ever seen took place in Germany preceding and during World War II.
     
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    Jewish propaganda. Stalin did way worse.
     
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    unless you believe in the Jewish, Christian and Muslim religions, then one has to believe God drowned every person on the planet but a boat load once.....

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    But it was for their own good! :wink:
     

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