Republicans are wrong. Trump has no ‘right’ to cause this chaos.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    One big reason Trump is unfit for the White House is because he lives in a pretend alternative reality, but believes in his core that it's all real. We need someone in the Oval Office who is solidly grounded in the same reality we all face as citizens. That's definitely not Trump.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Not so. While formally conceding is not a legal requirement, it is important as a demonstration of that candidate's commitment to our Constitution & the system we live under based on that document. It's also respectful to one's political opponent. Trump appears to fail in both these criteria.
     
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    Generally, they concede when they believe they have lost. Trump does not believe he has lost.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    So, if Trump says he is not lying, then he isn't lying, right?

    So, if Trump said "Putin said he didn't do it" Trump is correct in believing him, right?

    So, if Trump things his lawsuits are not frivolous, they are not, right?

    Wrong.

    And, if you do 20 lawsuits, and all of them don't result in squat, chances are you are vexatious litigant of the worst kind, the kind who brings baseless suits to the court, and wastes the courts time.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you want to argue he doesn't have an obligation to concede,fine, but given that every president in history conceded gracefully will not go unnoticed by the world and history books that Trump, with his petulant lack of wisdom, refused to do so. He will be the poster boy of the kind of leader no one should want for their country.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Drivel.
     
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    Knowing that you will be prosecuted if you break the rules is what ensures the integrity of the election system. Some people are not aware of the rules and are sent to jail. That is unfortunate.
    I would prefer that we have a more pro-active approach in securing our election as I don't like seeing people going to jail and would prefer we simply prevent them from doing something illegal instead of coming after them when the election is over.
    Unfortunately, democrats don't want strict standards for ensuring the integrity of our election pro-actively because a select few individuals might have difficulty meeting the conditions. This creates an impass where we need to compromise and come up with ideas on having a better system. Personally, making it a little difficult for a few to vote is better than sending mothers, fathers, and grandparents to jail because of illegal voting whether because they were ignorant of the requirements of a citizenship status or because they were scared into desperation.
     
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    Yawn. Stop begging, he is not conceding. Get over it.
     
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    no, but he has admitted that he did not win.
     
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    And you support him. Odd. For an American, I mean.
     
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    100%. I don't support socialism, liberal fascism, leftist cancel culture, PC, violent leftist brownshirts, corrupt Pravda-like MSM engaged in coverups and censorship... As an American.

    I certainly don't support election fraud. As an American.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do you support Trumpian Fascism?
     
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    Bizarre. Trump has you scared of fallacies. Cheer up. This is America, not The Apprentice.
     
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    My god. There is no election fraud. You're worked up over Trump lies. Sad.
     
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    Thanks to Trump it still is. Liberal fascists are working overtime to turn it into Venezuela, with elements of nazi germany.
     
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    tRUMP put in a bigger swamp. One that is beholden to his childish rants. There is nothing wrong with being normal. The country will relish it.
     
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    Both parties are the same. He described them both. It's just he recognized Rs and you recognized Ds. You both are correct.
     
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    There is no way on earth that you can say that with confidence. More than likely there was election fraud. The only question is which side and how much.
     
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    So you do support cancel culture, the squad, Antifa/BLM thugs? You clearly avoided that part of the question? Do you?
     
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    private companies, especially publications, have the right to fire people who fail to represent their core values in their articles, and refuse to do so.

    but i do think many of these events could allow suspensions and appologies first, and then consider termination.

    nobody supports election fraud. Not even Republicans, at least most of them.

    ...although many of them had no problem with the idea of foreign powers helping Trump win in 2016.

    and no, i dont support violent protest. I only support peaceful protest, non-violent resistance and civil disobedience.
     
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    tRUMP attempting to steal an election is Venezuala. tRUMP wants to turn America into Venezuela. You support that? His RW terror groups are elements of nazi germany brown shirts. You support that?
     
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    When you have something rational to say, keep it to yourself, k?
     
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    Stop.
     
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    Yep, thanks for confirming your true colors. The dems support socialism, violent Antifa/BLM brownshirts, the Squad, Russia collusion hoax, bogus impeachment, the media turning into Pravda... Who knew?
     
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    Trump is just doing his job. And, he'll probably continue doing his job until sometime the morning of January 20, 2021.

    He owes Joe Biden NOTHING until Biden has taken the Oath of Office, and then it's probably not much more than the "keys" to the White House, and the briefcase with the launch codes. If I had to guess, Trump probably is planning a round of golf in Florida on that Wednesday afternoon.

    Hey, Biden was vice-president for eight long years... he'll probably know where all the knobs, dials, buttons, and switches are.
     
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