Republican's Latest Monumental Faux Pas

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  1. TOG 6

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    No.... that's what the left told everyone he would do, even thought he said he wouldn't.
    Funny how you want to project YOUR error on the GOP.
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    Never mind the fact you know you cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship between the two...
     
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    :lol:
    Thanks for that laugh! Made my day!
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    Funny, that claim, made while not realizing that in Presidential elections since 1976, Democrats won a majority of the popular vote exactly twice.
     
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    Yes, yes, we know - Ubermensch > Untermensch.
    :yawn:
     
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    No, you want them to be political.
     
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    Actually, if you had been reading my posts I have telling you all along the connection between social conditions, wealth generation, and politics.

    Conservative rhetoric is such, that they make it sound as if the government is an outside entity come to control them. But the reality is we are a self governed nation. That was the grand experiment. We, the people, select our leaders. Yet consistently, those living in run down, uneducated parts of the country overwhelmingly vote Republican. And in areas of the country where there is high concentrations of college educated professionals, they tend to overwhelmingly vote Democratic.

    I'm sure that it has a lot to do with the fact; that the more intelligent one is, the less likely one is to fall for Republican propaganda.
     
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    They were poor for decades when they were called the solid South and habitually voted Democrat
     
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    Standard, accuse your accusers of doing what you do, tactic...

    :roflol: this is to hilarious...

    Democrat be like... this isn't about racism. I'm like white so that means I can't be racist to white people, because of like my race...

    Now sit and read me saying racist stuff...

    This is a great post to change "white people" to "Jews" and reread.:oldman:
     
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    All you offer here is post hoc fallacy and another unimaginative episode of Ubermensch > Untermench - as per the norm
    As stated, and as supported by your post, you cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship you claim.
     
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    Interesting thought and wrong. They didn't write about it because in late eighteenth century America it wasn't something males even considered.
     
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    More correctly, the people who wrote the Constitution intended to leave issues not addressed in the constitution - like abortion - to the states, within the limits of their individual constitutions.
    Nothing in Roe supports this.
     
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    If one studies the patterns of Supreme Court Justices, they tend to become more liberal over time, and few the other way around. Roberts has shown himself to lean a little to the left on some issues, and Souter essentially became a liberal on the bench, in short order.

    I'm an atheist and all, but I am delighted, to a degree, that the Court is dominated by Catholics, as they tend to not be as kooky, not as mean spirited, as many Protestants are.
     
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    OK Hirano. Like Congress Critter Hirano you think you know what other people think. Either that or you think you are my wife.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love hyperbole and outlandish claims. Of course, you probably don’t see your post as unreasonable at all.
     
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    Yes but they were still conservatives.

    When I was kid, in my elementary years, I'd come home from school, and there would be my mom. She would be in the living room, ironing and folding clothes as she watched the television. She always watched the early news as she handed us kids our clothes to put away, and began to prepare for dinner.

    These were turbulent times. The president had been shot. A war was heating up. Blacks were in the streets marching for civil rights, parts of America were decaying into slums. Anti war protests were getting bigger and more violent, they were going to put a man on the moon and Rock and Roll was just coming into its own.


    And then came Lyndon B. Johnson and a congress full of Democrats. And he transformed the US as perhaps very few have. He did away with the Jim Crow laws, passed civil rights and voting rights legislation, created Medicare and Medicaid, passed environmental protections, cut poverty in half, and generally brought America into modernity. The very modernity that conservatives have been lashing out against. That is when the change happened.

    Take a look at all Johnson accomplished. That is why conservatives fled to the willing arms of the right wingers who run the Republican Party.

    Johnson did more in an afternoon than Trump has done in his entire presidency, so far.
     
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    :lol:
    And the hits just keep on coming!!!
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    If it weren't for Republicans, none of the things you credit Johnson for would have seen the light of day.
    https://www.countable.us/articles/1...ted-civil-rights-act-percentage-democrats-did
     
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    Yes but in this case -They are right. No self respecting believer in Republicanism would condone Abortion law in the early term.

    This law is illegitimate on 2 counts 1) It is not legitimate for the Gov't to make law (of its own volition = sans overwhelming consent) that messes with individual liberty on the basis of "experts disagree". This negates the argument that the legitimate authority of Gov't is protection from direct harm - one person on another. In order to for this to be legitimate the State must prove the claim that a zygote is a person - and it simply can not do this.

    2) "Overwhelming consent" The bar for messing with individual liberty is "overwhelming majority" = at least 2/3rds. If this does not exist the law is not legitimate via the principles of Republicanism - and Classical Liberalism for that matter. This would constitute "Tyranny of the Majority".

    This does not mean that abortion is not morally wrong, but having a moral belief and forcing that belief on others through physical violence (Law) are two different things.

    While one can believe abortion is amoral - this is not justification for law - at least not as per the principles of Republicanism and Classical Liberalism - and good thing too.
     
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    Feds or the State - it matters not. Gov't (either Federal or State) making law that bans abortion in the early term is illegitimacy of authority. Full Stop.
     
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    There are many rights that were not put into the Constitution. What they did do is outline what the legitimate authority of Gov't is. You do like limitations to Gov't power do you not ?

    A law banning abortion in the early term would be illegitimacy of authority. And that is that.
     
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    Big government intrusion into private lives has an inexplicable allure for some, and state bureaucrats and politicians invading wombs is a perennial favorite.
     
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    Agreed - There is a reason during an election cycle -smart Republican candidates avoid this issue.

    Then there is the demographic time bomb - and the fact that few things gets the Blue side off their sofa's to vote like the abortion issue.

    Then there is the fact that many moderates and anti the establishment crowd - will side with Blue over this issue. It moves the needle in the decision making process.

    The last election was decided on the basis of the anti establishment crowd. Many did not show up for Blue on the basis of what Hillary/DNC did to Bernie.

    Many others - did not show up because Hillary was such a bad candidate and an Establishment insider - such an arrogant and condescending tone - nails on the chalkboard personality - so awful that even many Dem women did not like her (although did vote for her holding their noses).

    No plan - nothing to vote for - just "bad Trump bad Trump " over and over like a broken record.

    Despite all of the above - Hillary still got more of the popular vote than Trump. That should scare the dickens out of any on the Red side.

    Hillary is not running - and throw abortion into the mix ? Disaster.
     
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    Trump: I’ll appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion case

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/19/tru...ces-to-overturn-roe-v-wade-abortion-case.html

    Once again reality hits a deluded Trumpist like a splash of cold water in the face.
     
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    Kavanaugh has, for the duration of his confirmation fight, pretended this isn’t the case. “As a general proposition, I understand the importance of the precedent set forth in Roe v. Wade,” he told senators during his confirmation hearing. He reportedly told Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) in private that he agrees with Chief Justice John Roberts, who called Roe settled law in his 2005 confirmation hearings. Both Collins, who supports Kavanaugh, and Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), who opposes him, have said they think he won’t vote to overturn Roe.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/10/17551644/brett-kavanaugh-roe-wade-abortion-trump

    Thank you for further illustrating how liberals place their prejudices ahead of the truth, and then try to blame others when said prejudices don't play out.
     
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    I had you pegged as more of the cynical type......not so gullible as to believe what a nominated justice would say to get confirmed.
     

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