Republicans understand democrats better than they understand themselves

I certainly don't think everyone receiving aid is cheating- but I do think the people most deserving of it wind up feeling like users, because there are so many users in the collective lot and that creates a negtive perception of all in it. Many people who need help are too proud to put themselves in that category. Everyone in my family helps when family is in need. This year, I put a new roof on my first wife's house. We've been divorced over 40 years. She's still family, and running out of resources for anything more than basics. My wife of the last 16 years has no objection, because she is the same way- she would help deserving people connected to me, just as I've helped people on her side of the family.

The nation can do that too- IF we learned to tell the difference. If you know how to do that- tell us.

The quality of life depends heavily on the management of our affairs. First priority for everyone is your personal affairs and decisions. If everyone took care of that, very few would be left in need.
That depends on how people think and especially how they see themselves. Dependent people hate dependence, and resent being in that position- just not enough to change it.

Nature has managed life on earth successfully for millions of years- without all the BS we try to use to make it work. While some of the rules of nature seen cruel to some, they have resulted in millions of species that thrive. One of those rules is- If you don't hunt... you don't eat. That is simply, you pay your own way. Some animals hunt in packs for mutual benefit. The only ones that get to eat when they don't hunt are the offspring, too small to hunt yet.

People who are productive and who manage themselves and their affairs wisely usually do very well. People who refuse to do that- do poorly; and I do not feel sorry for them.

 

This video illustrates precisely why republicans should stick to running farms and businesses and stay away from national politics.

It is because the view being offered in the video is simplistic.

See, a nation, especially one that has 330,000,000 people, is far more complex than the simplistic mind of your farmer can comprehend.

'Simplistic" is a nuanced word. Let us note that it cannot and should not be confused with the word 'simple'.

Teh word means to simplify something past the degree which it can actually be simplified, such that the simplification is no longer viable, i.e., to oversimplify something is to look at something simplistically. To look at something simplistically is to fail to understand nuance and complex dynamics, such as that of a large nation affords.

Let's make sure farmers stick to farming, and let those who have a better grasp on how to run a nation run a nation.

But, two can play the simplistic game, and I will do that now about republicans, so you can better understand what is is like to be on the butt end of simplistic thinking:

Here's how republicans think of Democrats:

"We're democrats, we are coming for your religion, your guns, your wallet, and we're gonna turn your kids gay, we're gonna cram socialism so far down your throats your turds will be goose-stepping to the Soviet National Anthem."


Hell, if I believed only half of what republicans say about democrats, I'd still be a republican.

 

Nope, just certain basics.

 

I bet Trump ran for president so he could charge the U.S. for his golf fees. That cracks me up.

So, how much is a "fair share"? Biden doesn't want to raise everyone's taxes so someone won't starve. We already have safety nets and no one is starving, unless they made poor decisions and traded their food stamps for drugs. He wants to raise my taxes to pay for other people's kids' college. Double my tax bill, and I may starve. Ever think of that?

 

Food, clothing and shelter are basics too. Once you open the door, why not those too?

It always comes back to the core issue- who pays. There is no such thing as free here; every logical person knows that.
IF I take care of myself and do not burden you with my cost of living, why can't you do the same thing?

And that doesn't change between a single person or a nation of people. If we have 10 people in our nation, or 330 million- same formula. If each person is responsible for ONE person- themselves-
then nobody is left out. If you won't take care of yourself, you are left out by your own choice- and that is your problem.

We have exactly the same number to care for as we have people needing care. One person to care for, one person to take care of the job. Fairest of all possible care structures.
It's your fundamental responsibility in life- to take care of and provide for yourself.
There is no magic sugar daddy picking up the slack; if you fail to do your part- either you deal with consequences of your own actions and hopefully learn, or... you vote for a democrat who will screw somebody else and make them responsible for your mistakes.

This is a basic truth that has been a principle of nature- ALL nature- since time began- Take responsibility for yourself. It what empowers you; gives you control.
That way, you make your own decisions; nobody dictates what you must do and nobody takes from your wallet without your permission.
Freedom to do as you choose, help where you think help is deserved and you can afford to do it- not as someone else dictates.

You have the most at stake, you have preferences as to how you want that to be. Nobody else will care about that as much as you.
WHY would you give that up and let others limit you? You wouldn't- unless you want others to do for you what you aren't willing to do for yourself.

No matter how you slice and dice that, it's you insisting someone else carry you. Shifting what is clearly your burden to someone else.
Nobody that does that can have genuine self-respect.

 

Because unlike you I understand the concept of moderation. And guess what I pay taxes and have no problem with them going to health care or education.

 

Moderation? Is that the best excuse you can come up with for subsidizing dependence, keeping people in need and controlled by their government?

 

Good thing that's not happening.

 

You're not likely to find what you're not looking for or don't want to see. It's been happening all your life- just getting a lot worse now.

 

What I've seen is several friends on welfare who now have jobs and are doing quite well.

 

And from experience as a contractor and employer building low-income housing- I've seen things you wouldn't believe done by by people who have no intentions of working when they can get subsidy.
It's not all welfare recipients that are the problem, but those drawing on the system as it is supposed to work are in the minority. Generational welfare isn't a myth. If you had ever been in a position to work with welfare people, you would understand. I suspect you have a perspective- but a very limited one.

 

So you're saying that you have made a loving off government contracts building low income housing - basically making more money from the government than you paid in taxes. Always cracks me up that people who biotch about the government spending never analyze their own revenue stream. You needed
the government to spend money for you to make money.

 

So you want to screw over the many for the crimes of a few.

 

NO. I'm saying I've been in a position to knnow first hand what you only speculate about. That I was one of group of builders who put up such a project, all of whom kept prices down for a worthy cause, and saw brand new single family homes made unlivable in months- intentionally vandalized and trashed by people paying $35 a month. Imagine a house with only three months of use where such a tenant urinated down all the heating vents and leaves feces floating in the kitchen sink because he was angry for losing the property because he was selling drugs from it. Imagine one where a tenant who had his rent raised because he lied about income on his application getting so mad he put a running garden hose in the window when he drove away. Imagine you tour ten vacant houses less than 5 months of use, and find 9 of them unfit to live in and needing major re rehabilitation- far more than a clean-up.

People without self respect are comfortable doing nasty things; they think everything is owed to them. People with self-respect know you can't act that way without losing that self-respect.
That's why so many in true need refuse to ask welfare to help; it is a last option- because they don't want to be like the trash that thrives on it.

You've got some damn screwy ideas about people and money. You'd be wiser to keep them to yourself until you have a better understanding of both.

 

So not paying someone else's bills because they are good people is "screwing them over"??

As in, they are entitled to other peoples money, and so long as they want it they are entitled to it?
That's a lot like saying that illegals immigrants have a right to come here without permission and should all get benefits without having to respect our laws.

It is the people using/abusing the system, doing the crimes that are screwing the "many". Shame on you for defending them.

 

So you just want to flat out screw everyone who is not you.

 

The way you insist on ignoring truth is amazing. Nobody with that level of denial would have a handle on anything.
There's nothing to discuss here- I don't think you know what that is.

 

The more healthy American citizens are the better off this country is. The more educated American citizens are the better off this country is. This is worth spending taxpayer money on doing, you apparently don't care.

 

Well, you are right about healthy and educated being valuable. What you are wrong about is to think that throwing money and services at people who have no intention of taking care of themselves or learning how to manage life is going to change them into people who would benefit the country. People who lack self-respect and character do not make a country better- they degrade and use it. You cannot gift people with those things; it is impossible- all you do is increase their dependence, their resentment of their situation, and their inability to get out of it. You insure they continue to be losers; I work to turn them into winners- strong people who determine their own destiny because they are the people who make the country better. But that ONLY works when the person is determined to achieve it. Hand-ups work; hand-outs fail, and they curse both those who give them and those who receive them.

You're the one who doesn't care- you don't understand how much harm some kinds of "help" can do.

 

No you don't.

 

When you buy food at a grocery store, who do you think that money goes to? Outsourcing for cheaper goods produced by slaves hurts farmers more than tariffs.

 

Exactly the response one would expect from a spoiled child.
Exactly the reason there is so much division now- too many whose body is old enough to vote, but the rest of them hasn't caught up.

 

So what do you actually do to "turn them into winners"?

 

I doubt that's really a question, but I do have the answer- and it has to be qualified, in that in order to accomplish this, you have to want it and be willing to change what ever is needed in themselves to accomplish it.
Nobody who chooses to blame the conditions of their life on others can learn, and they can't be taught until that changes.

As the old oriental proverb says- "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear".

 

So you don't actually do anything.