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All of which have been claimed since the Jewish State attacked the US ship in international waters, I see you are still simply making things up!

 

Britain handed the mandate back to the UN because after fighting Hitler alone, we as a country were exhausted, the Jewish terrorist scum were attacking the British, many of those Jewish terrorist scum like Begin had left their own country and its Jews to die, whilst they stole the Palestinian land.

 

"that I've NEVER seen mentioned anyone else"!

You don't bother to read any links anyone provides
1. The BBC documentary shows one of the US sailors state that the emergency frequencies was jammed.
(A) Jamming only works while the object sending out the jamming frequency is close enough to jam the signals. Do you even know what is meant by "jamming"?. It's stated that men climbed up the mast during the attack to put up a long wire to use as a transmitter because the attack had destroyed the ship's transmitter antennas. Once the jets had gone, jamming is no longer present.
3. The crew on the Liberty did not immediately say who attacked them

 

Who says he lied? He could've just been mistaken.

 

You people love to say "crewman on the Liberty said" and then berate me for "not believing our brave sailors".

If you read the Wikipedia entry on the attack you would find that a Jewish crewman aboard the Liberty during the initial air attack cried out in anguish after seeing the Star of David on the attacking jets. So the claimed repeated that the Israeli jets were "unmarked" would in no way be true.

Do the Mirage IIIs and Mystere IV jets used by Israel in the air attack carry the equipment to jam the frequencies of a ship? I have doubts since for one, Mirage IIIs were very seldom used by Israel in surface attacks of any kind because it was considered poorly suited for the mission. And the Mirage IIIs made the intial attack pass on the Liberty.

 

How do you think that they managed to send a message out if the transmitting antennas were destroyed? Do you think that the Long wire was put up by itself?

LOL "but a crewmember recalls watching a Jewish officer cry" WHICH crewmember and which Jewish officer and why wait until 2007 to state this.

Yes, planes can carry jamming equipment! It's not complicated equipment. Do you actually know anything?

 

You said Richard Parker lied!

And the Naval Communication officer, Tony Hart said "my first thought was we don't want to do mushroom cloud" when saying why the planes were recalled.
So were they both mistaken?

You are delusional

 

You can say about the same thing for most of the claims by the Liberty crewman.

Yes, aircraft can carry jammers. But did the Mirage IIIs and Mystere IVs flown by Israel back then carry them? And if they were designed to jam ONLY the frequencies used by the Liberty they had to be specialized. Is there any independent evidence the Israelis ever used any kind of specialized jammers on the Mirage III and Mystere IV?

 

There is written and spoken testimonies from many named crewmembers so that negates your claim here.

Jamming equipment is simple equipment. It is effectively a high power radio station transmitter, frequencies pre-programmed just like a radio transmitter. Not specialized in any way

 

Grau claimed that the Israeli aircraft were jamming ONLY the specific frequencies used by the Liberty. That is a highly specialized, programmable jammer. Not a broad spectrum one. Also, jamming pods on Mirage IIIs and Mystere IVs would have to be carried on external pylons. This takes up space normally used for air to ground ordnance. Drastically reducing the weapons loads available.

 

No they are not highly specialized equipment. How do you think that a radio station transmits on specific frequencies? A jammer is no different

 

You still have not answered if the Israeli Mirage IIIs and Mystere IVs carried jamming pods.

 

Of course. Why not given that about two dozen crewman of the U.S.S. Liberty made mistakes. Of course at least they were in mortal danger at the time.

 

They can be retrofitted. Considering that the Mystere IV was used as a testbed for radar equipment it can certainly be retrofitted with jamming equipment which is similar but simpler in operation to radar.

 

Wow, so the Naval Communication officer on USS America lied, Richards Parker, Political consul of the US embassy in Cairo lied and 24 crew members of the ship that was attacked all lied. Oh and we can also add Mike Rattigan of the USS America who was one of the plane catapult operators who also states that nuclear armed planes were sent to Cairo.

 

How can you repeatedly claim to not know the same facts I've both stated & supported over & over again for almost 3 weeks?

The answers to all the questions you keep asking repeatedly are in James Bamford's brief article I cited earlier, "The Cover Up"

"The cover-up"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/aug/08/israel

You claimed to have read and even liked Bamford's well respected & well documented assessment but only complained that he was "anti intelligence" as in critical of the US intelligence agencies which has absolutely no bearing on facts relating to Israel's criminal & deliberate attack on the USS Liberty & attempt to massacre 294 American G.I.s

 

I never said any of them lied. They made mistakes. The captain of the Liberty openly admitted making a mistake that one of his ships guns mounts had opened fire on the Israeli torpedo boats. One had but the one he was referring to was not firing. Its ammunition was cooking off due to the heat.

I can't accuse you of "lying" about what I've posted due to the board rules, but you are deliberately misstating what I've claimed as me accusing all those people of "lying".

 

When will you realize that you making a claim and posting some links to "sources" (some of which are mere speculation and some of which are contradictory) ARE NOT EVIDENCE!!!

 

Ahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

The brits didn't fight Hitler alone, you had Canadian, Indian, Anzac and many other to do the dying for you and to feed you, and build stuff for you.
Talk about being ungrateful.

 

Post 670:
Me "Richards Parker, Political consul of the US embassy in Cairo, Egypt says differently at the 25:45 mark. Is he lying too?"

Your reply : Yes

 

Evidence is defined as: "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid"

The operative phrase is: "...available body of facts or information..." which for the purposes of this debate forum are the innumerable sources I've posted over the last 3 weeks confirming the fact that Israel deliberately attempted to massacre 294 American G.I.s aboard the USS Liberty.

So, yes, I've posted more than enough of "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid".
You're simply in stubborn denial of "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid".......i.e. "evidence"

I've posted more than enough evidence for any reasonable person to conclude that the Liberty massacre was deliberate however you've posted absolutely nothing to support your contention that it was accidental.

 

In general you are correct though for about a year the British did pretty much have to go it alone after France fell but before the U.S. declared war. At least go it alone in respect to little major power help

He might've lied. I'm not claiming he did. He also might simply have been mistaken. Either is a reasonable conclusion.

 

Aren't you assuming your "evidence" is true and accurate? I've seen nothing you've posted that confirms that. Nothing to support eye witness testimony.

Many of your claims were way out of left field. A couple of your sources were conspiracy sites.

Including a 9-11 Truther site. Also note that one of your biggest supporters in this thread is a 9-11 Truther as well.

Do you really want to be associated with people of that ilk?

 

Yes you did ! Me "Is he lying too?" You "yes"

Three different independent people all say that USS America sent nuclear armed planes to bomb Egypt but you say that they are all mistaken.

Definition of delusional: maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts

 

Attempted evasion & petty slandering of other Posters noted.

Again, I've posted more than enough evidence for any reasonable person to conclude that the Liberty massacre was deliberate however you've posted absolutely nothing to support your contention that it was accidental.
We both know why you can do nothing but deny facts about the treacherous massacre & shill for Israeli mass murderers

Get back to me when you can refute anything I've asserted & supported.

Meanwhile, I must concur with "truth and justice": "Definition of delusional: maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts"