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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Longshot, May 31, 2017.

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  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Humans are sentient, conscious, and rational, and many slaves expressed a desire for equal rights.
     
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  2. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Prove that cows are not
     
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  3. Longshot

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    One can't prove a negative. If you claim they are, then the burden of proof is on you.
     
    Longshot, May 31, 2017
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    As it was on blacks at the time. I agree
     
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    If you don't feed the trolls, they go away.
     
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    the world isn't black and white. You are under the false assumption that rights are absolute, that morality is objective. None of that is true. Morality is subjective, and changes quite frequently. Rights are not absolute or inherent. They are agreed upon by the society you are apart of.
     
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    Someone was indoctrinated in cultural-marxism revisionist history.

    The first colonial American to legally own slaves was a black man.


    Many Native American Indian tribes practiced slavery and engaged in the slave trade into the 1890's. Since American Indian tribes are considered to be sovereign nations the 13th Amendment had no legal affect on these tribes unless it was written into the treatises that they would end participating in the slave trade and owning slaves.

    http://files.usgwarchives.net/ok/nations/census/pg380b.txt

     
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  8. Vegas giants

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    No you don't
     
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    Well, I expect that if you believe the above logic that you are already a vegan.
     
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    No, they don't.
     
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    Many vegans use that argument
     
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  12. Longshot

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    Good advice.
     
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    You can stop anytime. Now would be good. Lol
     
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    I think one can safely say that it's unjust to murder people.
     
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    Define "people". LOL
     
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    An individual human being.
     
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    Today? Absolutely.
     
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    Prove it. LOL
     
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    When would it be just to murder another person?
     
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    Blacks law dictionary. Go look up "natural person".
     
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    I see. Now law gets to determine what is moral. Welcome aboard!
     
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    prior to modern society agreeing it is wrong.
     
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    You asked for me to define person. That's the definition.
     
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    Probably not but am I saying that because of some fundamental principles or because it's been culturally ingrained? I'm honestly not sure, that's why I asked my questions.
     
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    Welcome aboard!
     
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