Riots in the streets of Istanbul READ THREAD WARNING IN OP BEFORE POSTING

So you are going to be ok with sharia law to come to parts of America as a way of "making it even"?

 

We are on the same side as AQ toppling regimes who offered no threat to us. Ghadaffi began complying with US and UN demands to remove his stockpiles of chemical weapons. We had been there destroing them, only having to leave, once we helped the terrorists wage war on him. We are back now... and set to finish destroying them in 2016 or some (*)(*)(*)(*). Syria is a MUCH worse situation... and if you believe the UN, it is the terrorists using Sarin gas in Syria, which they would have acquired from Libya.

There are bad people all over. It is not our position to go around toppling governments who pose no threat to us.

And you avoided the main question. Why are we on the same side as Al-Queda in all of these conflicts?

 

I obey no religion.

But, Islam seems just as ridiculous as Christianity, so I don't really care. Most of Europe was once occupied by Muslims and they seemed to fare okay.

 

I doubt Islam will ever become even 20% of the population of America. However, if they do, do you really believe our Constitution will be viewed as anything but a worthless piece of paper to Islamic fundamentalists? The Constitution will never protect us from radical Muslims who have been granted the title of American.

 

Iam thinking muslims back then didnt have the same world view and AK47s.
And I dont think they will care what you wish to obey. At the end of a barrell, you better get on your knees and pray thier way.

 

The Left thinks they can just say no and they will be obeyed.

 

Bloomberg must have convinced them to limit sodas to 16 oz.

 

I do remember all of those noted God-pushers like Feinstein, Reid, Biden and Pelosi pushing us into that Holy War.

Oh, wait....

 

My research indicates that what you say is correct. Sometimes the problem with a message board is viewers think you are baiting or flaming, (and I do have some reputation for getting pissed off, and doing just that).

In this case the facts speak for themselves which is why I keep posting utubes from CBS News as this situation in Istanbul expands.

My concern is that Turkey, like Egypt and some other middle east countries have democratically elected leaders who are Muslim, and turn into dictators implementing Muslim law. What is the United States to do? Intervene in the internal events of these nations? I think we have seen enough of that.

What I think we need to learn from this is the Muslim agenda is to take control of a country, and implement their backward thinking. I believe the United States is on their agenda, and few here are concerned about it.

Yes, I am downshifting my posting to stick closer to the facts, but I think members here are oblivious to a real threat from a group of people who have already killed thousands of Americans with terrorist acts.

 

I don't know how they spun it, but Bush said that he got a message from God to go to war. Why are religious wars only bad when Muslims do it?

 

Sharing as opposed to seeking to dominate.

 

It already does.

This is why it is so important to vigorously defend the seperation of Church and State.

A 20% Muslim population in the U.S.- which would take a rather breathtaking turn of events over a rather extended period of time- somehow managing to surpass both hispanic immigration rates and hispanic birth rates- especially considering right now it represents .8% of Americans by faith.

Want to know how powerful they would be? That would be 4% less population than the current population of Catholics.......

I welcome any American to practice any faith in peace- or to not practice a faith at all- in peace.

 

Since I happen to know real life American Muslims, rather than the caracatures, I can say from first hand experience- No more than Christian Americans want to insist that every American be a Christian.

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Then you should speak about that group of people- rather than the millions of American Muslims who didn't.

 

Thier idea of peace and ours is very different.

 

Made up Palestinian BS.

 

Provide us even one example to show us you arent just making the (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along.

I think we have all seen enough of your attempts to derail this thread, or distract us from the point by throwing Christians, Catholics or Hispanics under the bus!

The facts are simple, and Turkey is not alone. A Muslim leader gets democratically elected. Turns into a dictator and implements Muslim law. Those are the facts.

The question is how much of this is going on in the United States? The answer is look at this map.

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And pay special attention to CAIR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_American%E2%80%93Islamic_Relations CAIR claims to have a Muslim program similar to the NAACP. The NAACP does not inflict terrorism, murder, and blowing up building. In fact neither to Christians, Catholics, or Hispanics.

You are not fooling anyone here.

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Provide us even one example to show us you arent just making the (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along.

 

Thanks for asking, but you could have simply viewed the CBS News video in the OP. Right on top of things aren't you?

 

I'd like to see that link. Thanks.

 

It is the 14th Century mentality of Muslims. Look at these signs. Have you ever seen a Christian, a Jew, a Buddist, or anyone but Muslims suggest "Beheading" or "Butchering?"

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Muslims can not tolerate western culture, but after Jihad, they want money and careers. Muslims are an extraordinarily screwed up group of thinkers. Muslims are brainwashed, and can not be deprogrammed.

 

They wouldn't care. US laws don't supercede Sharia to fundamentalists.

 

I am sorry that you consider the truth and facts as 'derailment. Well not really sorry- its rather fun to shine light on your fear mongering.

And what Muslim law has been implemented in Turkey exactly? Restrictions on when and where alcohol can be served? LOL....

And while I may not approve of Erdogan....shall we compare him to the man that George Bush called part of the "Axis of Evil"- Syria's Assad?

Now, lets move onto 'A Muslim leader gets democratically elected. Turns into a dictator and implements Muslim law.'

First of all- most Muslim countries are ruled by dictators or some repressive government- whether they are Muslim dominated or not.

But you do realize that Erdogan's predecessor was a Muslim also- don't you?

Oh the colors are so pretty.....and what are the percentage of Muslims in the U.S.?

Why?

Any evidence that CAIR has inflicted terrorism, murder or blowing up buildings.

I do not want to equate Extremist Muslim violence with violent acts by others- because frankly I think the threat from Extremist Muslims is very real. But it is idiotic to claim that no Catholic has ever committed murder.

I would hope not.

Unlike the fear mongerers, I post to shine a light on the truth.

The truth is that Muslim extremists are dangerous, and the truth is that the vast majority of American Muslims are not.

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I really don't care what 'they care'.

The Constitution prevents fundamentalists from imposing religious law on all of us.

 

And this is the crap I object to.

I find it just as offensive as the Jew hate crap that is on the boards.

Religious bigotry has no place in America.

Americans are free to worship as they please and to hell with the bigots of any brand.

 

I was just in Turkey last week, a nation of knock off purse and leather jacket dealers.

 

Sure- glad to.

In the spring of 2009 I visited Arlington National Cemetery with Professor Akbar Ahmed to stop by the gravestones of Muslim American soldiers who died fighting in the Iraq War. Colonel Martinez of Washington's Old Guard, a regiment of the United States army, walked us around to see the resting place of several of his "great soldiers," which made feel humbled and thankful to be in the presence of such brave American citizens.

One of the soldiers was Captain Humayun Saqib Muazzam Khan, a Pakistani-American who received a Purple Heart, a military decoration awarded by the President to those who have been wounded or killed in action. Next to Captain Khan was Ayman Abdelrahman Taha, an Arab-American, who also received the Purple Heart for the courage he exhibited in the Iraq War.

The graves of Captain Khan and Ayman Taha show that Muslim Americans have not only been soldiers in the United States armed forces, but that they have also brought honor to the United States for their courage and bravery in fighting for freedom

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/lets-honor-muslim-america_b_3339838.html