Ron Paul is building up to something big...

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  1. marbro

    marbro New Member

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    have you been to detroit? Policies like what Obama and Romney endorse is how Detroit became a (*)(*)(*)(*) hole thats looks like a 3rd world country.
     
  2. marbro

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    this whole post was just an attack on people with zero substance. Bravo you acomplished nothing.
     
  3. Belus

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    And I'll keep ignoring you because I quoted directly what I was talking about. If you can't figure it out then that is your problem not mine.

    More one line posts. I think maybe you should stop while you are ahead. If you have no way of actually arguing with me then just hush up.

    Yup, that is one of the many reasons why Ron Paul will never become president.
     
  4. marbro

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    Thats what I thought, you just made the (*)(*)(*)(*) up. I love catching people in a lie:winner:
     
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    Name one policies of Obamas that is bad for the economy.

    And Ill list policies of pausl that would make us a third world country.
    Referting back to the Gold standards
    eliminating medicare
    eliminating the VA
    eliminating Social security
    eliminating environmental laws and the EPA
     
  6. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    bet you vote for a big government, big spending, statist.

    Good, you'll get more of what you've been getting, more of what you deserve.You'll get to subsidize the poor, the rich, and the world. You'll get to watch your liberties disappear. You'll get to watch the purchasing power of every penny you manage to save get eroded while the corporatist pry every last bit of wealth from your wretched hand.
    Enjoy. It's what political stooges deserve.
     
  7. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    while you're busy licking the bum of the government that gives you crutches, don't forget to thank it for crippling you.
     
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    The media is doing Ron Paul a favor. Libertarianism depends on people knowing the right thing to do. History has proven that individuals and small groups of people left to their own devices don't always (or even often) do the right things. Paul has a very positive political view which if it was well implemented would bring disaster on many people. If he was a real contender for the presidency this would be well defined by his opposition.

    I do think however that he could be a very valuable running mate.
     
  9. marbro

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    Welfare can lead to dependency if abused... When a people are paid 3rd generation in to not work its hard to break the cycle. To me it’s another form of slavery. Should the needy get help? Yes! I think we could come up with a better system that doesn’t cost as much and reduces dependency.

    As to your list

    When Paul becomes president none of those minus maybe the environmental laws(have to look that up) would be gone. He would reduce foreign spending to salvage those very things you are worried about losing. He has stated this over and over but folks keep ignoring it. Reality is we are going to lose those very things if we keep going down this road because we cannot afford to keep printing money and think everything is going be ok.

    He has stated that SS will still be there and that he will give the younger folks an option to get out. How is that eliminating SS? He wants to but he knows we can’t because people depend on it. I ask to at least research him better then come back with another list.
     
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    Considering that government provide health care is 40% less expensive despite being of higher quality, that Social security Returns 25% more in benefits then the private market, environmental regulations save over 100 thousands of lives and trillions of dollars every year ill gladly thank the govenrment.
     
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    ouchy, that was cruel.
     
  12. marbro

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    Oh and I know this quote is not directed at me but you did ask me also.

    Look at Obama's green policy. Much of his inititives have not payed off.

    President Barack Obama’s “green jobs” initiatives suffered another major blow late Monday, as the nonprofit National Renewable Energy Lab in Golden, Colorado, announced a plan to lay off roughly 10 percent of its staff through a voluntary buy-out plan.

    According to the Denver Post, the lab plans to eliminate between 100 and 150 of its 1,350 jobs. The Obama administration supported the NREL in 2009 with roughly $200 million in stimulus grants. Energy Secretary Stephen Chu visited Golden in May 2009 to promote the NREL as a beneficiary of those funds.

    At the time, the Associated Press reported that the stimulus grants included $68 million to build demonstration model of an energy-efficient office building; $19.2 million for solar, geothermal and fuel cell equipment; $10 million for testing and evaluation of wind technology; and $45 million to research and test drive-train systems for wind turbines.
    http://www.politicaljack.com/forums...-quot-Green-quot-Investment-Really-Paying-Off!!!
     
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    <<<Mod edit: Insult removed>>>

    The reason no of those things would be gone is because not everyone in congress is as crazy and stupid as ron paul.
    And yes I do mostly agree with Ron Paul foreign policy wise.
    In our current mess printing money and using it as fiscal stimulus via infrastructure and other spending is the exact thing we want to do.

    Duh people depend on social security would you rather they die in the streets like they did before FDR created SS (same thing with medicare.)
    As a society we (well most of us) have decided that we want to spend money making sure that old people who've worked all their life can retire and have health care. To do this we created Medicare and SS both of which are far more efficient then anything the private market has to offer
     
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    Thats soo disapointing You asked I set the record straight and you give me this. what a waste of my time.
     
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    Well he did dump many more trillions of dollars into the economy than was generated by the resultant growth of GDP, for a net loss.
    Gotta give credit where credit is due.
     
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    you cold, heartless person. People died in the streets before medicare and SS.
     
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    Oh look more typical Ron Paul supporter behavior and rude attitude!

    Nope sorry I didn't vote for Obama in the 2008 election and I don't plan to in the 2012 election.

    And Ron Paul is going to change all of that? Just one man can pull that off? Ron Paul is that man? Don't answer any of that. He isn't the answer.

    :fart: What ever makes you feel good inside instead of accepting the fact that you don't have the ability to look at what I quoted when I said that. It's really simple. :bored: Now when you have something to add to this thread or an actual argument instead of your little games then I'll stop ignoring you. Good? Good. :mrgreen:
     
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    Hard to imagine people working together to make a better society as a crutch, that is why we form governments. Controlling the situation is the issue and making it fair for everyone. Paul's idea would let the corporations take over whether he believes it or not. Romney will win the nomination and all you Paul supporters will switch to to Milk Toast Mitt and act like you never heard of Paul. Later, after the election it will come out that Romney supporters were packed into the debates and bought off, at least the one's from now on.
     
  19. Belus

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    Well he is a Ron Paul supporter.....:-D
     
  20. squidward

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    But you still voted for a big government statist, and will again in 2012


    I'm sure a status quo, big government statist will get right on that for you.

    They've been doing such a fine job so far.
     
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    by eliminating the government privilege that empowers them?
     
  22. marbro

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    That's all you got, lies and calling people names. No substance !
     
  23. marbro

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    You don't have to convince me of your dillustions pal, everything we wrote is laid out for everyone to read for themselves.


    You ask for an Obama policy that is bad for the economy I gave you one. Which you have since ignored and instead wrote a bunch of dribble.

    You acused Ron Paul of eliminating SS Medicare and medicaid and I correct you which again you ignored and I got a bunch of dribble.

    Try those facts
     
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    I did Answer that question!I made a post just for it. but you managed to read and respond to all my other post hmm I guess it just slip by ya lol
     
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    The Paul attacks are borderline hilarious at this point in the game. What is it about Paul that brings out such vitriol? Seems like a true hatred of freedom...
     

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