Russia launches attacks on Ukraine

Stop with the canard not a dime was withheld and that was years ago.

Biden is President, this is HIS show. Deal with it.

 

Trump held up the Military Funds until it became public

Then faced with the scrutiny ........... Trump released the Funds

 

While it is not a central consideration, in the situation as it is currently developing, I
actually can't agree with you, that Trump's past holding up of military aid to Ukraine, is out of context, to this conversation (especially, if the argument has been made by others, which does not seem unlikely, that Trump would be doing a better job than Biden, handling it).

BTW, because there is a time lapse between the "release," of funds, and it's translation into weapons, in Ukranian hands, Trump did, indeed, slow down the arrival, of Ukraine's assistance.

 

Sanctions are coming from all over the place, covering all sorts of people and jobs...

Now Russian orchestra conductors are getting hit....

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/management-drops-conductor-valery-gergiev-182359541.html

It's a tough cruel world out there...

Wait, are you arguing with people that claim T****'s Ukraine extortion was "no big deal"?? UGH for them... It was... Unlikely it contributed to this situation all that much, but he certainly should have been impeached for that....

Oh? Really?? Great!!

 

You may need to ignore the Cry Baby Loser personally and illegally withholding vitally-needed military aid to Ukraine to pressure Zelenskyy to contrive fake criminal charges against Biden, as well as the Loser's continual attacks on NATO, but the Loser's praise of the murderous dictator is impossible for those with the shortest of attention spans to hide from.

Ukraine war exposes lack of support for Trump’s pro-Putin GOP wing
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Being affixed like a lamprey to that yooj Trump butt has its awkward aspects.

Casting aside his accustomed snippy butter knife rattling, Ichabod, for one, is looking pathetic.

GOP Sen. Tom Cotton won't condemn Trump's praise of Putin
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Wait what, Trump asking for Ukraine to look into something is exhortation, but Biden taking millions and getting is son of the hook is ok?? Man dem logic is something to behold

 

As long as the Cry Baby Loser is impotent in summoning the testicular fortitude to honestly amid that he lost the election, he persists in crapping on the nation's democratic process and the will of the People.

You can tell everybody to live with the constant stench of his lies and grievances, but our nation's integrity remains under attack by him.

 

Russia attacks the Ukraine. David Feldman rightly asks, "Is the invasion of the Ukraine a bad thing?" No, it is not. Putin pulled the mask off of US oligarchs and mercenary fascist collaborations all over the world! And for those of us in the U.S. that have seen the blow-back phenomena from these anti-Democratic clandestine activities, it appears...

"...As time goes on, “betraying the cause” is an incessant charge, and there are indeed turncoats. Authorities are bewildered, heads of institutions try threats and concessions by turns, hoping the surge of subversion will collapse like previous ones. But none of this holds back that transfer of power and property which is the mark of revolution and which in the end establishes the Idea…

To the distant observer the course of events is a rushing flood; to those inside it is a whirlpool."
--Jacques Barzun, From Dawn to Decadence (2001)

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You don't think the US should keep it's promises? Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons when the US and Europe promised to protect Ukraine.

 

Poland for one. Central European countries remember what it was like inside the Soviet Union and will not allow that to happen again. SO THERE!

 

We also "promised," not to allow NATO to move one inch East of Germany, apparently. What any given official SAYS, I do not consider, automatically compelling all Americans, going forward, to support. That's why WRITTEN agreements, exist. Show me that, and this will prove your case; and change my mind.

 

Any country who aided and abetted Putin should be punished the same way. Sanctions have only begun.

 

" Our nation's integrity...."

Our integrity has been destroyed by the liberals and the left. Absolutely gutted, along with their honor.
They won't call out the cheats and thieves because they ARE the cheats and thieves.
It's always- somebody else done it. It's not even hidden or arbitrary- it's in your face. And you buy it all....

 

I would have thought it was understood but, what I had expected, along with the names of any countries that were ready to go to war with Russia, as you'd claimed existed, was some evidence that these countries feel, the way you represent.

If you had based your original statement on nothing but what you "feel," other nations would do, I think you are astronomically off, in your belief. But show me Poland's political leaders, advocating for war, and I will have to concede your argument.

 

Good deal, Jack! (sorry, I'm watching Apollo 13 in the background)

I guess it's a mouthful to say "Russia and Belarus" in every sentence, but I'm glad you are linking them together here..

 

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Why you all over Biden for with-holding military aid from Ukraine .. not a good idea to be giving nations military technology

"Illegally with-holding" -- this is nonsense talk and completely false.

 

Normally, if something is considered to have broken the law, we call that illegal..... in this country..... even your side used to think so...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-administration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html
https://www.justsecurity.org/67489/trumps-hold-on-ukrainian-military-aid-was-illegal/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...law-government-accountability-office-n1117031
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/politics/gao-trump-ukraine.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51139939

You fool nobody with an iota of knowledge on the topic...

 

President has Veto Power - and good thing in this because is really dumb to be arming ukraine.

and what's "My side" tis the one without iota of knowledge who desperately tries to lable their opponent - engaging in Ad Hom fallacy.

 

The result was impeachment, and now he is humping Putins leg by calling him savvy genius.

If you say so.

 

In case you have forgotten...

An Urgent Mass from The President of the United States!
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With Trump Putin was hoping for him lifting sanctions, which Trump had expressed he would, though ultimately the Senate prevailed.

So, it makes sense that he didn't want to upset Trump, hell, he interfered with US Elections precisely for that purpose.

But, the solution to PUtin isn't to elect a Putin Loving president.

What you are implying is specious logic.

 

Nazi? See any Nazis? I haven't seen any Nazis...except one Ukrainian political activist exported to the US who then organized pro-Trump caravans to Portland during July and August 2021 that resulted in two people dead. Even back in 2014 it was known that it was the Nazi Right-Wing that drove the Maiden coup.

Imagine, if you will, some absurd scenario wherein former President Trump went to the capitol and whipped up his MAGA followers to interrupt the 2021 election certification vote because the election was stolen from them. And just imagine those trained and equipped Street MAGA insurrectionists confidently storm the D.C. Capitol with promises of legal immunity for their crimes. Then imagine Trump orders the Street MAGA rioters to backoff, and Street MAGA tells Trump to go Eff himself, that they are taking over---and they do take over beginning a eight year civil war.

Well, we don't have to imagine it. It happen in the Ukraine in 2014 and it was the plan for Washington D.C. in 2021. Professor Stephen Cohen tells us how the Maiden plan developed:

Is Ukraine's Opposition a Democratic Movement or a Force of Right-Wing Extremism?
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The only ones doing anything and making anything work are those brave Ukrainians. They seem to be the only ones with any spine, as Zelensky pointed out that the West said "never again" only for Western leaders(including and beyond the US) to turn tail and run at the first sign of adversity to the democratic institutions.

So much for defending it Biden, really a brave warrior out there.

 

What do you want him to do?

 

Impeachment is a charge(like being charged with a crime. An impeachment is an accusation of wrongdoing). A trial is held based off that accusation. So what were the results of that accusation? Was he found guilty and removed or no?