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Russia launches attacks on Ukraine

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Patricio Da Silva, Feb 23, 2022.

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Had we showed a united front to begin with, there wouldn't have been an invasion. Instead, well as I posted he tried a public media campaign as if that did anything(and it didn't.) So again, brave warrior /sarcasm. One term administration. I'm sure there are even democrats who can do better than Biden.
     
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    I don't know how you can deny what is so well documented, but cult dogma often conflicts with incontrovertible reality:




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    Well, that's certainly an argument that can be made.

    That T**** legally withheld the congressionally approved military aide no longer is.....
     
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    No responsible national leader had kowtowed to the brutal aggressor by calling him "savvy" or a "genius" in his intent to savage Ukraine. Fortunately, the United States had been conscientiously repairing its relationship with NATO that Putin's bum kisser had seriously damaged.
     
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    I asked what do you want him to do, be specific. What does "united front" even mean?
     
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    Nonsense ... VETO - President - and good thing too .. as was dumb dumb idea - a fact you seem desperate to avoid.
     
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    To be united, you need the cooperation of the other member of your front. Trump sow discord and ridiculled his allies for 4 years. Trust had to be rebuilt and Biden did just that by being open with the information he had and by not acting as a dictator and make decision for others.

    He also did, what Trump wasn't able to do, making the european union participate in military mission. Heck, Germany just decided to spend their 2% of GDP on military equipment which they wouldn't do under Trump. And that's only the start.
     
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    Your hyper-partisan whining cannot demean all the decent Americans - conservatives, moderates, and liberals, Republicans, independents, and Democrats - who can handle the truth: The Cry Baby Loser lost, and the will of the American People prevailed, despite his goon attack on Congress and his other schemes to destroy democracy.

    Just a few examples:

      • POLITICS ISN"T THE WEIRD WORSHIP OF ONE DUDE.​
     

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    It certainly is .. but the main point here is not whether or not it was "Lawful" --- but whether or not it was the correct move .. and arming Ukraine is a very dumb dumb idea .. as is putting ABM's in Eastern Block nations on Russia's border.

    Sometimes you have to look at the big picture -- consequences - precedent. Russia's not doing any different than NATO did just a short time ago .. annexing territory from a soverign nation .. known as Kosovo .. and Putin followed this playbook to a Tee - until he decided to take over the whole country ... which in actuality is not what he is doing .. nor was NATO when they bombed Serbia.

    I said then .. and say it now .. but even more true now .. "Do as we Say - Not as we do" gonna kick us in the backside.
     
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    Some are fanatically supportive of everything he does and says, but many others are waking up after seeing him praise Putin and his assault on Ukraine. ​
     
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    Trump certainly wasn't found guilty of the impeachment offenses and consequently wasn't removed because of impeachment.
     
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    Apparently, your dogma is incapable of honestly accepting the incontrovertible data. The Cry Baby Loser illegally withheld vital military aid to Ukraine and tried to hide his petty action from the Congress that had voted for it - to pressure Zelenskyy to contrive fake criminal charges against Biden. If you can't handle the truth, that does not alter the truth.

    Zelenskyy would not be intimidated then, either.
     
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    If the main point is not whether it was "Lawful", then stop claiming it was..... because the rest of your argument is flushed when you do...

    Say it now.... "Trump illegally withheld the approved military aide from Ukraine"..... Rinse.... Repeat...

    Arming Ukraine is certainly no dumber than arming Saudi Arabia and other regimes that cannot be trusted....
     
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    The Loser clearly has a vendetta against Zelenskyy for not having contrived fake criminal charges against Biden, and a devotion to his "savvy genius" for having conspired to help him and hurt Clinton in the 2016 election. For Trump, it's always all about Trump.

    The President of Ukraine had also stood resolute when confronted with these formidable intimidators:

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    If Al Capone were still around, he'd have said it just that way.
     
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    No law was violated. It’s simply the lefts of misrepresentation and misinterpretation of the law.
     
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    POLITICS ISN'T THE WEIRD WORSHIP OF ONE DUDE.

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    Can you handle the truth that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election, a reality that he is incapable of accepting, an impotence that compels him to launch goon attacks on the Capitol, attempt to intimidate honest Republican governors, secretaries of state, etc., and persist in crapping upon America's safe and secure election process?
     
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    Can you get back on Target of thread discussion. You are so 2020, it's 2022 bud and all that comes out of your posts are Trump Trump Trump. It's a lot disturbing.
     
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    The President's restoring the international alliance of the United States, NATO, and other advanced democracies in their united response to the savvy genius's brutal aggression is a good thing.
     
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    Good job, and your correct Putin has shown us all why it's important to stand united. He's shown Europe how important it is to PAY their agreed upon amounts into NATO.
     
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    Thats a falsehood - I did not dispute any of your data .. is not namecalling and falsehood not the actions of the "Cry Baby Loser"

    Yeah .. and then you completely avoid addressing the point --- that giving arms is dumb dumb dumb -- in your strawman rant

    Then after avoiding the Truth ..you project your failings onto others by accusing them of not being able to handle the truth.

    Swell done mate .. but surely you have better .. why you so excited to give arms to Ukraine -- Stand up and speak for yourself -- speak your "Truth" .. so I can have a morning chuckle.
     
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    The invading Russians are being repulsed! Europe is rallying with offers of Stingers and Javelins for Ukraine, and effective sanctions against Russia. Putin has bitten off more than he can chew; he is misguided and deluded. Putin is sunk alright but we have to hope he fatally flails before he can use any nuclear arsenal.
     
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    Despite the propaganda concerning the western alliance, the record shows that NATO members' contributions have been steadily increasing since 2014.

    That reality did not deter the "savvy genius."
     
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    Hmmm what if they would've actually paid what they agreed on like Britain and the US? Were they forced to agree on 2%?
     
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