Russian aligarch calls Mueller's bluff, will see him in court, catches him totally off guard.

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    How can I fear an investigation that isn't being legally handled, in which both a Federal Court and the US Congress ask for the SAME freaking document that the DAG refused initially to turn over?

    Why would I fear an investigation when I'm opposed to any corruption, including corruption from POTUS Trump? No, I simply follow the facts(a disturbing thing for most people I know.) And the facts is the likes of Mueller and Andrew have a rich history of prosecutorial corruption, and somehow managed to keep their license in spite of it.

    Maybe this case, against a POTUS might finally revoke it.
     
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    Are you on the
    Russians side?
     
  3. Borat

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    Dude, it's a criminal law suit, may the best man win lol
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, like they think that Mueller will indict the president. Or they think he will come up with some charges against Trump.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i am on my presidents side, since you asked of the forum.
     
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    No, but Mueller's incompetence is clearly helping their case....looks like MUELLER is on the Russian's side.

    They did, after all , HELP IMMENSELY WITH THE DOSSIER, without which, Mueller wouldn't have a job , right now...
     
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    Most of his businesses we're pass through LLC's which never fail or succeed. However, by 1992 100% of his empire was in total failure with $4 billion in debt. It is still unclear if he ever paid off all of that debt. His casino's were failing through the 2000's.

    All he has now is name licensing on some developments due to his reality TV show persona and some golf courses. And some partnerships with some very questionable partners. Many banks still won't go anywhere near a loan or partnership with Trump.
     
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    I hope Kerry gets arrested for what he's doing in Iran.
     
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    Mueller and his 18 lawyers are also attacking the US President, which would certainly be of help to any enemies of the democracies. It's the Leftists, as their history makes clear, who are again being used by the Russians.
     
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    It would be ironic if he, like General Flynn, was charged under the Logan Act.
     
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    Flynn was part of the incoming administration.

    Kerry has zero justification for discussing any US position with anyone.

    Sounds like Iranian collusion to me.
     
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    Can't.

    Democrat.
     
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    Indicted for....Russian collusion?
     
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    The basic rules for the electoral college were established as far back as 1787, and continue to this day. Are you suggesting that Hillary was too stupid to know they existed? Or that an idiot (as you call him) was far smarter than her? One thing is for certain, Trump is the duly elected President of the United States, and the final tally of 306 to 232 was no accident; but instead, the will of the people who voted.

    If Mueller, the Deep State, and the radical left believe otherwise; then they are fighting an uphill battle, a battle against the Constitutional Powers of the Executive Branch, and against the will of the people. I don't think that's a battle they can win; yet the more they try, the more subversive and treasonous their behavior becomes, and the more damage it causes the country.

    The sooner the Mueller Witch Hunt is dismantled and brought to justice, the sooner the country can move forward, and its constitutional balance restored.
     
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    Some remain trapped in a box.
     
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    You can convince yourself it's a different thing, but the proof is in the pudding of this 'investigation'. We will survive this utter farce against the POTUS and the rule of law.
     
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    That's right. Dirty Bob Mueller is billed as a man of great rectitude, but it's proving to be more in the Stormy Daniel's sense.
     
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    That was a perfect distillation of another remark that I once read about Trump.

    Trump is a poor man's idea of what a rich man is, a fool's idea of what a smart man is, and a weak man's idea of what a strong man is.

    I didn't write those words, but they paraphrase your post pretty well.

    I almost certainly knew more about Trump thirty years ago than you do know. And, truthfully, I doubt that you know much of anything about Trump beyond his glitzy facade. My opinion of him dates from that time, and nothing he has done in his checkered and dubious career has changed it. He is a phoney and a fraud, a small man for Queens who has a giant chip on his shoulder because he isn't taken seriously on Park Avenue (and being President won't change that).

    They also know that he's really a small fry. Most of New York's elites, many whose name you will never hear, can buy and sell Trump with the change in their sofa cushions.

    It's pathetic when you see the supermarket tabloid crowd fawn over a phoney like Trump just because he sits on a gold plated toilet seat.

    Trump has always thrown money away on the glitziest portion of his lifestyle, in an attempt to maintain the facade. And he has always indulged in activities designed to make him look much bigger than he actually is. You will see the Trump name on many buildings in New York. He doesn't own any of them (except for a very few). There were the fake Trump steaks, the dubious Trump wine, the fraudulant Trump U, all of which either didn't exist at all, or generated little or no revenue. Golf course properties like the ones Trump has don't make money anymore, and are a drag on the real estate market.

    As for whether I can logically make a case that Trump's businesses are a house of cards, you only logic to support a counter argument seems to be that he is rich (in your imagination), because you're not. (that's what you said anyway).

    I sent you a lengthly and well sourced article about Trump's money laundering activties with the Russians in recent years. I'm sure that you didn't' read it. Facts aren't Trumpser's friends.

    And if you think that owing a lot of money to Russians, or being involved in money laundering deals with Russians puts you in their debt.......... ask Paul Manafort. He's on the hook to Oleg Deripashka (a man who has people killed), for $19 million.

    It is no secret that no one on Wall Street or in the circles that normally finance commercial real estate will do business with Trump. It's also why none of the top flight law firms won't represent him.

    He doesn't pay his bills.

    He's a crooked real estate operator from Queens. Taht's all he ever was.

    Oh, and when this is all over, the Russians are going to cash Trump out. So, Jared and Ivanka had better hope he's able to peddle his White House influence to get bailed out of 666 5th. Or they're going to wind up in a split level in Secaucus, too.
     
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    Well, it's a blinding glimpse of the obvious.

    We will survive this utter farce of a President. Although we will come away badly bruised and of greatly diminished influence in the world.

    The Western World no longer has its leader. The man currently in the job doesn't undertand the role, and could care less about it.

    And it is the height of hypocracy to self righteously beat your chest about this nation's instututions when you place your faith in a wanna be dicator who routinely attacks the institutions of American democracy, and shows with almost every public remark that he has no respect for democracy or the rule of law.
     
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    Here is one of the points from where it began.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html
     
  21. AmericanNationalist

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    Because the prior President was able to successfully reintegrate the Koreans? Oh WAIT. Just on that alone, Trump has not only succeeded President Obama, but the last 3-4 Presidents. It must frustrate you, but not only is he the legal president, he's starting to look like an all-time great(You know, if you're not wearing blinders.)

    Even to the point where he accepted an awful bill for military spending purposes, but immediately sought to rectify the problem. That's called leadership. It's something we direly lacked. Give the POTUS and Congress credit for working together on a problem that shouldn't have been in the first place.

    I disagreed with his decision to name Jerusalem in whole to Israel, but that's a decision that's looking smarter each passing day. Sooner or later, the Palestinians will have to reach an agreement on a new capital and the reformation of their State. In foreign policy, Trump has been much better than expected.

    So yes, I'm very happy we replaced hapless approval, with someone whose made tough decisions(even if not necessarily always right) for the betterment of the country. America's stronger today, and would be stronger still if not for the political hacks who infest it.

    So someone has to defend the legal commander, against those who would usurp his powers and not participate rightly in 2020. That's the legal avenue and should be the only avenue.
     
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