Russian-speaking Jews in Europe drafted to defend Israel online

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  1. Abu Sina

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    http://www.timesofisrael.com/russian-speaking-jews-in-europe-drafted-to-defend-israel-online/

    More Stupid Hasbara Robots polluting the internet with their LIES :mrgreen:

    Don't they realise we all have TV's in our homes showing us the telling us the truth about the zionist regime!
     
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    free man Well-Known Member

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    Don't you have other things to attend to ?

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    very informative. how about these guys? are they in?
    [video=youtube;vI5fe3Oomn0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1zOO04oVew&feature=related[/video]
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again the jews are leading the way when it comes to developing communications strategies.
    Abu, maybe between the sneers, you should step back and examine the strategy itself.
    Maybe the palestinians and the anti-zionists could learn a lesson or two about how to be really effective.........
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope.
    US government doesn't "fund" israel. It provides $3 billion in military aid.
     
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    Like Goebbels?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    kind of.

    I'm sure you would agree that communications strategies are an important element of "conflict" management.

    I thought you were in the media industry, surely you would be familiar with the power of a distributed network of "engagers" all singing from the same song sheet, addressing a variety of anti-cause profiles in real time?

    We have just seen the effectiveness of same in the presidential election, where the democratic side was so effective in large scale co-ordination of activities (get the vote out) as well as communicating both positive democratic principles and negative republican ones.

    You think such a strategy would be effective for the pro-palestinian forces, or are they too primitive and full of hatred to actually craft effective positive messaging while establishing and co-ordinating the activities of a network of supporters to get the word out and counter the obviously extremely effective program of the evil zionists?

    Nahhh, much better to jump up and down about apartheid, genocide, ethnic cleansing, murder, victimhood, and the evils of evil zionists being evil.
     
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    And loan guarantees for the government doubling that at least ($9.8 billion?)

    The loan guarantee is an under-the-table support, basically if we funded directly we would be borrowing from the debt markets to afford it. By guaranteeing Israel's debt issuances instead, the same investors lend on USA's book but the money goes to Israel instead. The guarantees are nonetheless the obligation of the USA and are treated as such by credit ratings agencies and investors when determining USA's total debt, and therefore affects the USA's future borrowing capacity and its cost of funds.

    And of course, if we didn't fund their killing tools, they would have $3bln less to spend on this stuff...
     
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    Err, yeah, better to make a fuss about those things than trying to manipulate the media to give a false impression. Of course.
    What is wrong with you?
     
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    I specifically worked in advertising media, advertising television and press media.

    I earned good money from it, better than I do now, but I grew to hate it.

    Why? Because you are essentially selling propaganda ALL the time, both to the client and to the public.

    I was trained by two of the best broadsheet newspapers in the business. I loved it at first, it is fast moving, and I liked the cut and thrust.

    Then you wake up one day, and you find you have no more stomach for it.

    In a contest between a lying global media v the truth, I would still always choose truth.

    If the Israeli's sang their blockade and occupation to me, in a love song, it would still be a blockade and occupation.

    We need LESS lies passed off as news, not more.
     
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    Israel has never "missed" an obligation to pay.It is not Israel's debt issuance, it is Israel's ability to borrow money on the international market. the US loan guarantee allows them to borrow that money at the most favourable rate. If there was not US loan guarantee, they would still be able to borrow money for their needs, but they would probably have to pay a point or so higher interest.

    It has almost no impact on US financial flexibility or rating.

    Yep if they didn't get the $3 bill they'd have to find it somewhere else.. Of course US industry wouldn't get 2.4 billion in annual sales, nor would the US get a very effective weapon system development partner. Its a mutually beneficial arrangement, and as an added bonus it helps preserve the balance of power in the region and not to mention US influence.


    Loan guarantees are not the same as "funding" Israel.
     
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    nothing is wrong with me.

    You totally miss the point about a communication strategy. you also don't understand how to establish a strong and supportive relationship with the media.

    And two things have a lot to do with building that relationship - treating media as a customer and working hard to meet their needs, and cafting messages that are designed to make POSITIVE impressions in the minds of the media consumer.
     
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    I certainly agree we need less lies passed off as news, but I doubt that is ever going to happen until the truth police gain world domination.

    As to the blockade and occupation being dressed up as a love song still being a blockade and occupation, I can't agree more. Its best to be as honest as possible in a campaign like the one described above and arm the network with a variety of positions that use clear simple language, incorporate power/positive phrases, have some effective sound bites and apply a standard lexicon to counter the over the top rhetoric of the opposition.
     
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    LOL, Islamofascist propagandists are whining that the object of their demonization, lies and hatred is organizing a counterpropaganda campaign. Are you worried that the Islamonazi lies spread by the armies of of antisemitic Israel-hating e-jihadists like you, Nazier, Moon and co will be debunked more quickly and effectively than they are today? If you are not, you should be (not that anyone with a brain takes you anti-semitic rants seriously today). :D
     
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    Doesn't even take that.

    The lying corporate media, and those they represent, need our complicity.

    They need us to willingly turn on to their lies. And listen to them. And believe them blindly, as many do.

    But people are turning off from it, and that is one simple action anyone can do.
     
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    If this is an example of a Zionist opponent, I have no fears for ultimate victory.

    We shall prevail.
     
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    You mean, be more effect in lying to the world to get support?

    In case you missed what happened around the world during "Israel's" latest massacre in Gaza, we do not need to lie to gain support.

    I do like how Zionists are beginning to take credit for their lies, though. As if this is something to be proud of.
     
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    Indeed.

    Further, his suggestion appears to be that Palestinians gain control of global media, and invest heavily in the best PR and ad agencies.

    What an utter disconnect to even suggest such a thing.

    :crazy:
     
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    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...heduled-protests-against-israels-attacks-gaza
     
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    I think we(Arabs) should adopt this strategy wholeheartedly , we need it a hell of a lot more than them .

    Though realistically speaking were aren't capable yet of making successful PR campaigns.
     
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    By "developing communication strategies" you of course mean-if I interpret correctly-"make desperate attempts to salvage Israel's totally screwed reputation", and "attempt to divert the gullible from Israel's overt duplicity and law-breaking activities". Quite the master of euphemism, aren't you?
     
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    Master of sophistry too.
     

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