Russian-speaking Jews in Europe drafted to defend Israel online

I think he actually means the people that are often denied medical supplies and sufficient food (which he flat denies), should hire a PR company.

 

God, where you have you been?

I thought they'd shaved yer head, for being a heretic..

 

Check this TMR>>>http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/277554-josh-hantman.html

 

Nah, just lecture them about 'personal responsibility'. Yank conservatives love that sh1t.

 

He seems to not realise that they are denied a voice to begin with....

 

Lol. Had some work on. But now free again. I miss this place.

 

I saw you in an orange all in one.

I was all ready to don a Yamulka and sell you out, to be honest.

 

This is garbage, you cannot find a better educated more behaved than Israelis/Jews anywhere, not in the UK and not in Poland...
This fella is ruminating and rehashing the old anti-Semitic refrain by innuendoes... Your host country are dwarfs compared to little Israel and they cannot reach the level of intellect for generation to come in comparison.

 

Okay, so Jews everywhere are banding together to fight muslims on the internet. Christians side with Jews and so Jews and
Christians join together to oppose muslims on the net. Big deal. Did you expect Christians to side with muslims or something?

Shintos and Buddhists dislike muslims, as do Pagans. Face it, nobody likes muslims except muslims.

 

So much genuine heartfelt symapthy for the plight of the oppressed Palestinian's from JH - brings tears to your eyes, doesn't it?

 

Well, you say that, but if the never ending bleating of Jews is to be believed, then since the year dot, everyone from the Romans, to all of Christianity, to Germans, and Europeans, and Americans too actually, then nobody has liked them, most of all, most often, and for longest.

 

He sounds dire.

His delivery - student debating.

His body language - poor

His accent - just odd.

His words - manure in any language.

 

Don't you?

 

As to Russia in general.

Putin divides opinion of course, but he is very smart, and he does love his country, I believe.

Something which is perhaps not true of every Western leader, I believe.

The truth is that Russian people have actually been so badly blighted, so many times, and for so long.

The Bolsheviks murdered so many of their people, Communism then went on to be evil personified, and while an outsider may think 'the end of communism', has been a success story, don't be airbrushing out that in many ways, the Russians are enslaved again, merely to a new system.

No to mention all the thieves that emerged rich, literally from stealing.

 

One of them owns a London football club who play in blue I believe?

 

That is just the very well known one.

Two, one a Ukranian, the other Russian, were the initial backers for their new 'Parliment'....

 

Another mischaracterization of my opinion on what a palestinian media/communications strategy should entail.

what an utter disconnect from the truth.

 

Never happen. Its that whole human nature thing again. And I'd say there is a huge number of people who have to be told what to think, because they lack the intellectual horsepower to understand the complexity of national/international problems, the impact of those problems on their lives and the solutions to those problems. Hence FOX NEWS, and MSNBC.

 

Yes I think a strategy structured properly would be extremely effective. There are a number of huge assets that can be utilized in an integrated and co-ordinated media/communications strategy.
Having a global network of supporters who are committed enought to protest provides a solid foundation.

It is not that difficult to craft a messaging template and associated talking points that are designed to clearly communicate the palestinian position, highlight injustice and challenge the Israeli narrative.

I have noticed that at least in canada and the us when they get a local organizer or somebody willing to talk, they can speak with emotion and sincerity, but they are all over the map flinging out negative images that are ineffective (genocide, aparthied et.al.). They don't have a clear concise message and it differs from city to city.

The PA media spokespeople are frankly lame.

More often than not, when NA media covers the conflict, the Israelis have a slick american sounding articulate senior official (ambassador, consul, etc) dressed in a suit and looking like a million bucks, clearly and concisely making their case in a logical progression, with a number of power phrases and sound bites "built in". Its not a secret weapon or anything, they are in use throughout North American politics and have been for years. (go to talkingpointsmemo.com and check out an anlysis of both parties versions).

When they get a palestinian person to speak, half the time its a civilian, or occaisonally a fluent visiting or temporary ngo lawyer or some such, or if its a government rep, they try, but they are not anywhere close to as articulate, and do not have the backing of a script, a clear objective, and usually don't know how to handle themselves professionally in an interview. Never see a hamas official of course, so that means often you get the absurdity of a Fatah official trying to explain a Hamas position. A few well trained talking heads, strategically placed in appropriate time zones would solve that problem and present a gazillion times better than now. That ain't tons of dough. A good creative team could be hired at $300K a year.
A few talking heads could be had for say $100k a year each.

I could go on in constructing a very effective campaign along with the necessary supporting infrastructure. It isn't rocket surgery, its simply a little marketing sophistication and maybe a million or two a year. It would be money better spent and more effective(damaging) than buying a missile launcher.

 

So we can stop the $3bln we spend on Israeli armaments EVERY YEAR?

Israel can just use sharp-suited savvy talking heads to chat on daytime guest shows instead. Is that your case?

That's simple, thanks for your thoughts. Please refrain from "rocket surgery" in the future: its not safe.

 

Then why are we doing it?
Israel is an investment-grade country, why does the USA subsidize their regime?
Why is Israel, a first world developed country with an investment-grade credit rating, the USA's largest foreign aid beneficiary?

You could say the same for the military spend on Israel, or building a hundred hospitals here in the USA. The scale of the impact on the USA balance sheet is only due to the scale of the USA balance sheet in total. You admit it has an impact, the point is that it has an impact and the impact is the same as if we funded directly.
Why are we doing it?

We could theoretically do the same with Iran or China. Or, preferably, with none of them. Why Israel?

No, they are sneaky and contrived to fall off the balance sheet when reporting to the American people. Other than that, they are the same.

 

Read the works of Irving Ben Suckemoff.

 

What are you talking about? I'm talking about the palestinians implementing a new strategy.
Israel is alredy using sharp suited media savvy talking heads and guess what? North America likes the Israel brand about a gazillion times better than the palestinian brand.

Some how or other, the palestinians have to come to the conclusion that they cannot beat Israel militarily. The only outcome of conflict is 75 to 1 kill ratio for Israel and the destruction of palestinian infrastructure. So, what to do? How about implementing something where the playing field could be leveled almost instantly with the application of a couple few million dollars?

I am a helluva rocket surgeon and am aware of the dangers, thanks.

 

A us loan guarantee gets the lowest possible interest rate. Imagine that.

I suppose america's role in the world is inconsequential to you. What does it matter if the region becomes more unstable? Why support Israel and Egypt to maintain the peace? Of what importance is it to America to have an advanced arms staging base in Israel that can reliably be accessed at any time? What possible benefit could there be to joint US/Israel military operations in the mediterranean? Why would demonstrable support for Israel impede major aggression against them? Whats 2.6 billion a year in arms revenue to american manufacturers. Of course there is not benefit in joint weapons development and testing. And technology exchange shmechnology exchange - who needs bright creative minds working to mutual benefit?

Nothing like a simplistic one dimensional assessment. Actually I suppose its typical of conservatives in america today.

See above. the $3 billion is money well spent.

If there was as good diplomatic, military,financial and R&D reasons for doing so, I don't see why not. America has a history of buying allies. If the opportunity to shut down the Iranian nuclear project at the cost of a few billion a year, I'm sure it would be entertained.

I don't understand what you are talking about contrived, falling off the balance sheet. Alll payments and obligations are spelled out in both American and Israel government documents.

 

Just spoke to him and he was very complimentary about you. Apparently you and he have quite the little thing going.

good for you.