San Bernardino woman killer passed immigrant terrorism test...

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    The job of radio and TV is to entertain and make money, not to educate. Judging by some of the responses I read from forum members their entire 'education' appears to have resulted from 24/7 TV exposure.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Well now, 'Jihadwatch'. Is that anything like 'Jew watch' or 'Stormfront'?
    Here are some warm and inclusive Christians doing God's work: https://www.warchild.org.uk/issues/...847c2ecd7db8&gclid=CKz1paebx8kCFcOe2wodekUI_g
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...1adbb2-9032-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_story.html
     
  3. bclark

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    Everyone that does bad things is suddenly a Christian? Unless that is your guide, I'm not sure how you even begin to make the association with the LRA, and the church.

    Lord's Resistance Army (LRA)
    Founded in 1987 and led by Joseph Kony, a self-proclaimed spirit medium,

    Secondly, I think history is repeating itself a bit in Africa mirroring the crusades of Europe. Shockingly, civilized people get sick of their children being kidnapped, tortured, killed and sold into slavery by Muslims in Africa.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    No need to get defensive. I'm merely pointing out that so-called 'Christians' are equally capable of committing atrocities. As for being sold into slavery weren't we, the 'enlightened' West, doing the same not so very long ago?
    For every example of terrorism by our new bogeyman, Islam, I can cite just as many committed by Western terror organisations.
     
  5. DivineComedy

    DivineComedy Well-Known Member

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    Jesus overturned the tables in the temple, why?

    MoHamMad did not overturn the display in the Mosque, why?

    “(3) Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of 'Aisha: On the days of Mina, (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah) Abu Bakr came to her while two young girls were beating the tambourine and the Prophet was lying covered with his clothes. Abu Bakr scolded them and the Prophet uncovered his face and said to Abu Bakr, "Leave them, for these days are the days of 'Id and the days of Mina." 'Aisha further said, "Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said, 'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'." (Book #15, Hadith #103)

    It is not a new bogeyman in either case of Muslims or Christians cleansing. The “Christians” after persecution by Diocletian, resorting to doing the same to pagans once a sympathetic Emperor came to power, was simply not supported by the words of Jesus in their own books of the time, it is probably what helped create the evil views of MoHamMad after Mecca, and why he sent representatives probably looking for the same windfall from the Romans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletianic_Persecution

    A spirit of revenge is also natural to secular beings, and forgiveness is always hard.

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 191:

    ..."In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful (This letter is) from Muhammad, the slave of Allah, and His Apostle, to Heraculius, the Ruler of the Byzantine. Peace be upon the followers of guidance. Now then, I invite you to Islam (i.e. surrender to Allah), embrace Islam and you will be safe; embrace Islam and Allah will bestow on you a double reward. But if you reject this invitation of Islam, you shall be responsible for misguiding the peasants (i.e. your nation). O people of the Scriptures! Come to a word common to you and us and you, that we worship. None but Allah, and that we associate nothing in worship with Him; and that none of us shall take others as Lords besides Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are (they who have surrendered (unto Him)..(3.64)"...

    The Romans rejected him, and the Jews rejected him:

    “[2.40] O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and be faithful to (your) covenant with Me, I will fulfill (My) covenant with you; and of Me, Me alone, should you be afraid.
    [2.41] And believe in what I have revealed, verifying that which is with you, and be not the first to deny it, neither take a mean price in exchange for My communications; and Me, Me alone should you fear.
    [2.42] And do not mix up the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know (it).
    [2.43] And keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and bow down with those who bow down.”
    “[2.83] And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside.”

    He changed direction, then they took Palestine, and kept on until inquisitions...

    If you look at the verses cited by the Southern slavers and the Northern abolitionists, a considerable amount of reading of old newspapers…, you see the South had to ignore some verses while the North did not have to ignore anything. If the South had converted to Islam they would have had no problems citing verses and deeds of their false Prophet to keep the peculiar institution, and to acquire and rape female booty for more.

    We have to avoid going down the road, of thinking the only choice for safety is cleansing like many Islamic entities still are. And the biggest threat is the verses, either side claims is God’s Word (where the word is like a rock) devoid of asking the Spirit (conscience) directly to help determine the right actions, which then involves some logic. What people say is the same thing as a flag, and when at war with that flag, speech has to be consider a flag; claiming the German NAZI has to have a red band with a spider on his harm but can say anything, is stupid, and lets the fifth column off the hook. We have an enemy that is not hiding in the catacombs, or not praying to be seen of men because of vanity, they interpret the whole thing backwards, it is hiding according to the art of war in their book.

    Let's do a little comparison of the books on one tiny little point, and then think about psychology 101.

    "5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

    7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

    8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him."
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...13&version=KJV

    "[4.142] Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah, and He shall requite their deceit to them, and when they stand up to prayer they stand up sluggishly; they do it only to be seen of men and do not remember Allah save a little."

    Ask yourself, what verses do you think they recently asked those in Mali to recite? How is it that they know when to pop up on cue instead of sluggishly? Can you imagine the fear of those recently conquered who did not understand? {Scared to death little Buddhist, Christian, Pagan, or Jew, thinking to himself “I am so devout I’ll stay down a little longer…” or, after their recital of the perfect prayer, they said to God, “Please God help me.” Then they popped up, too late for the inquisitors.}

    "[5.58] And when you call to prayer they make it a mockery and a joke; this is because they are a people who do not understand."

    It was how they could tell who they were:

    "[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    Then if they repent and keep up the prayer to be seen of men...

    Tell me now, which is more logical for domination and keeping conquered people in a state of subjection, prayer in a closet or prayer that can judge you on how fast you get up?

    So who is right, Jesus in the verses I quoted or MoHamMad's Koran?

    Compliance with military discipline is much easier if you can have some measure of their devotion; you were in the military, do you still keep your shoes polished, is your uniformity squared away?

    It simply is a hell of a lot easier to find support for cleansing by going to examples in the Old Testament and Torah and the Koran and Hadith, or simply secular Darwinism with calipers, than in the Gospel and the rest of the New Testament.

    Black Stone Idolaters are not worshiping God, when they thump their Satanic Verses, just as many “Christians” are not Christians when they thump the Old Testament too much and claim “God breathed” (an unchanging constitution more than a thousand years old) is greater than the Holy Spirit guide to recall what Jesus said or meant. If we cannot change we are rocks or worshipers of rocks, and if we pull out the calipers to measure the person by its cover we could be secular, scientific, and NAZI, or Islamifascists measuring the meter of a verse.

    I had a cross burned in my yard in the 60’s, by Southern Democrats, you don’t have to tell me about our history.
     
  6. DivineComedy

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    Which countries would those be?

    Did we bomb Saudi Arabia like Jamie suggested?

    “But Afghanistan did NOT attack us. Plain simple facts seem to allude you.

    No specific country attacked us, but if you had to pick the one that was most involved, you would have to pick Saudi, not Afghanistan.....” (Jamie, Liberal, Democrat)

    Maybe it is something like racism that motivates them and makes all them innocent?

    Sunday, 30 September, 2001, 16:54 GMT 17:54 UK:
    "'We do not accept the presence in our country of a single soldier at war with Muslims or Arabs,' Prince Sultan said in comments published on Saudi Arabia's official Okaz newspaper on Sunday." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1571689.stm

    "Saudi Arabia said what?
    'You can’t kill an Arab or Moslem;'
    No matter the murderous plot,
    We respect them?" (Sun 30 Sep 2001 09:03:18 PM EDT)

    "Muslims would not be killing other Muslims. They would not be using Arabia to launch strikes on Muslim countries if they were actually Muslims.

    Read the Quran
    it's all explained in there" (Abu Sina) http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-backed-wahabi-fanatics-6.html#post1061567723
     
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    This is why obama, likely to be considered the worst president ever, and his minions in the news media like the dreadful NYT, are working overtime to get the focus away from arab muslim terrorism and contort this into a gun control issue. They'd try and turn it into an issue about how driving SUVs contributes to suburban crime if they could; literally anything to change the subject.

    What is so hilarious is how much of a complete f--king idiot obama has looked like twice in the last few weeks; he claims ISIS is degraded and the next day they shoot up Paris, after which when the US public exclaims they do not want the US to accept more syrian arab muslims in the face of that attack, the moron claims how the vetting process is so very thorough and comprehensive - followed up a few days later by an arab muslim turd brought into the US by her muslim husband.

    If the news media had any shred of credibility at this point, obama would be getting eviscerated in the press, but they are much busier bending over for his press corps/management team trying to spin the CA attack into a "gun control" issue.

    I used to think that there might still be some journalists with some integrity and character who could see right through obama's BS even at dumps like the NYT, but I guess not.

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    40 million what?
     
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    Saudi Arabia did not attack the US.. and Saudis are not fighting in Syria. If you leave KSA to fight in Syria, you will serve a long prison sentence when you return.

    Its time to see the 28 redacted pages that Bush covered up.
     
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    if the rightwing is saying Obama is the worst President ever, he must be doing really well!
     
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    Were they vetted? Were they US citizens? Where they born here? Did they do that just to kill and maim? Or where they mentally defective.
    Your christian hate is noted.
     

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