Saudi Arabia invests $2 BILLION in Jared Kushners brand new investment firm??

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    If there are crimes, investigate them. By all means. But if you're going to attack your political opponents with the force of the law, you should at least have some evidence... not like the whole Russia Gate BS...
     
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    Arming the Saudis for peace? Can you hear yourself?

    Like his father-in-law, Kushner has refused to completely divest from his business interests while he's working for the federal government. When he joined the White House, Kushner resigned from the board and reduced his stake to 25 percent. That's still a substantial chunk, though. "The problem with Kushner—and with Trump—is that we have all these corporate entities, and often nobody knows who is invested in them and where those investors borrowed their money. We simply have no idea," Richard Painter, a former Bush administration ethics lawyer, told The Guardian.

    After refusing to divest himself from his real estate biz (after being made an assistant to the prez despite being unqualified) he got a $90M investment from the guy he defended in the Khashoggi murder. Nice work if you can get it.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    You mean the hoax that Hillary paid for and has been fined by the FEC for, and who's legal team are currently under investigation pending indictments... Yah, that BS. Lawfareblog... LMAO... Liberal acolytes devout in their slavish knobslobbing.... Funny.
     
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    They tried.

    The GOP turncoat cowards in the Senate refused to allow justice to be done.

    Its pathetic and despicable.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It takes quite a bit of effort to unwind the shyte you throw on the wall since you never provide your sources. It appears you're referring to the campaign filing Steele's work with the FEC under the wrong category. Something i'm sure Hillary did personally so lock her up. ;) The investigation in to the legal team being done by Billy the Bagman's hand picked lackey having dragged on for years with no result of consequence. He'll no doubt produce some worthless finding for maximum effect around election time.
    So.........you've got nothing (as usual) while dismissing the factual material in multiple sources proving your dismissive "Russia Gate BS" remark as itself being bullshyte.
     
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  7. Hey Now

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    In Jared's case the Big Guy is Dips**t Donnie.
     
  8. Hey Now

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    In bold, that brief statement you have chosen to interpret in only one narrow way is so conveniently framing a partisan 'narrative' that I can take the rest of your post with any seriousness.
     
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    You are saying the the difference between an investment and a paycheck makes a "partisan" narrative? That would equate Hunter Biden's approach to finance rational because of his partisan connections. and Kushner's company as suspect because of his??

    Why not?
    We already condemn people for being white, have people endorsing porn and gender change for children, have a president running a massive illegal alien smuggling operation on government money- given that state of affairs, it's rational to say a stray cat a "partisan" statement if they cross in front of you.

    It's come to the point that the cartoon below is no longer humor, we're trying to communicate with people who think this way everyday.

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    I am saying that you are choosing to frame your partisan narrative to create a straw man angle, so again, I can't take the your post seriously. If you need further 'explanation', I don't chase rabbits, especially rabbits of a partisan construct.
    IOW:
    Logical Fallacy of Distinction Without a Difference / Phantom Distinction / Sham Distinctions
    Distinction without a difference is one of the many smokescreens that are used to cover the fact that the reasoning is based on one of the three fallacies of Agrippa's trilemma. Whenever a logical fallacy is committed, the fallacy has its roots in Agrippa's trilemma. All human thought (without Divine revelation) is based on one of three unhappy possibilities. These three possibilities are infinite regress, circular reasoning, or axiomatic thinking. This problem is known as Agrippa's trilemma. Some have claimed that only logic and math can be known without Divine revelation; however, that is not true. There is no reason to trust either logic or math without Divine revelation. Science is also limited to the pragmatic because of the weakness on human reasoning, which is known as Agrippa's trilemma.
     
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    exactly...
     
  12. FreshAir

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    who knows

    "Trump Writes Bonkers Defense of Saudi Prince for Murder of Journalist"

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/trump-statement-saudis-journalist-murder.html

    or

    "Trump Forced by Oil War Into Unthinkable Push for Higher Prices"

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...l-war-into-unthinkable-push-for-higher-prices

    "Donald Trump is trying to do something no U.S. president has dared to do in decades: Drive up the price of oil."

    "Now, the Russia-Saudi price war and a killer pandemic have caused prices to plunge, putting Trump in the awkward position of begging those same countries to turn off the taps, even though retail gasoline will become more expensive as well. The U-turn comes as America has gone from being the top importer of oil to the top producer, aligning its interests more closely with Saudi Arabia and Russia in a shift that holds the potential to reverberate through foreign policy for years to come."
     
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    that cartoon is Trumpism in a nutshell
     
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    Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Doesn't have to be right, nor rational or even sane. And you are free to freak our over trivial differences of opinion.
    Even free to think that's what rational people do when they don't understand something.
     
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    Hardly- it's the liberal ideology, the same one that makes them call arson riots "peaceful protests."

    Things are never what they left labels them to be. Never in my life thought American people would make arguments out of pure BullShat and stand there with a straight face, like they actually believed it.
    There is an old saying- "If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with BS."
    When the BS dominates their argument, the corollary is obvious- major shortage of brilliance, so they use plan B.
     
  16. FreshAir

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    the peaceful protests were not the looting and rioting

    just like there was a peaceful protest at the capital as well as the rioting and looting
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    Where is the evidence on 'election fraud' you know, the one that supports Trump's allegation that 'they only way democrats can win is if they rig the election', the one he started yapping to his flock before the first ballot was cast? of the 60 lawsuits done by Turmp and or his surrogates, NOT ONE OF THEM produced evidence that was upheld. And yes they tried.

    Capitol Police, why don't you take it up with the chief of the capitol police? ( and no, it's not Pelosi ).

    Those who accuse, the onus is on the accusers to produce evidence, something, anything that will support the accusation.

    Vacuous accusations are not worth spit.
     
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    Evidence, please. Bobulinksi's email does not prove squat.
    That isn't the point, abuse of an office of public trust it the point. CORRUPTION IS THE POINT.

    Mnuchin and Jared wouldn't have secured those billions but for their positions in the Trump government, giving them access to QATAR and Saudi Arabia where they abused their public office for private gain. That is corruption in the highest echelons of government. Do you even care?

    Hunter never held public office, but Mnuchin and Kushner most certainly did.
     
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    Certainly, but for covid, there would have been no stimulus, no supply chain disruption. Covid is probably more responsible for inflation than anything else.
     
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    All I'm seeing there is hint of an email where Hunter is Bitching about having to pay what are no doubt his share of bills he incurred in his father's entourage.

    What it doesn't prove is a scheme for Joe Biden to profit from alleged 'deals'. where there are checks drawn, contractual compliance therefrom, etc.

    See, in order for the truth, he needs to be dragged into a hearing, or a court of law, and be subject to questioning cross examination, etc., to get the context of what the NYPost story implies. It doesn't prove, it implies, alleges, and that's a big difference.

    Short of that, what you have there isn't proof. It might warrant asking questions, but that's about it.
     
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    It warrants a full investigation.
     
  22. Hey Now

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    Ahh, expected 'go to' ad hom. Was going to offer the benefit of the doubt but disingenuousness will always show itself.
     
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    """Bobulinksi's email does not prove squat."""
    Is his statement good enough?
    Is his statement and emails together enough to satisfy his evidence about Joe?

    https://external-content.duckduckgo...id=OIP.KGCllaz8nE_wtYWVdbHyFwHaE8&pid=Api&f=1



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    That is why they need to investigate, just like they would do with Trump under similar circumstances.
     
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    You can have all the conniptions you want about Hunter for all I care. He's not a member of the Biden administration. So set your hair on fire and beat your chests all you want. It means jackchit.
     
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