Schumer Rips Hillary: Don’t Blame Comey or Russia, ‘Blame Yourself’

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    I have not made any false accusations. You don't agree with me show me facts don't give me your opinion about my facts and claim that you are correct. You have the right to your own opinion but not your own facts.
     
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    Shut up already, you shills have no clue what you're talking about. This "corporations aren't people" nonsense comes from your minuscule understanding of the law, Citizens United, and the constitution.
     
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    For Christ sakes read the Orange Dildos tweets and listen to his rally speeches.
     
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    America promised thatvut had their back America let them down. Just as Bush failed to help Georgis when the Russians invaded there.
     
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    if those emails weren't really written, nobody would have had anything to tinker with.
    It sucks when your scumbaggery gets into public hands. Don't be scumags and you'll be ok
     
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    I don't know and couldn't care less. Furthermore when it's to utter what everyone knows since half a year.
     
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    What about news organizations acting as shills for a party?

    And getting rid of lobbying won't stop lobbying, it will just end the regulation of it. What little there really is.
     
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    You made the claim back your **** up, and stop trying to back peddle.
     
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    The Left has been like totally consistent on this: Don't fear the Terrorists who scream commitment to their god and then murder Americans, fear the Russians! And we are like WTH?

    The Left is deep in emotional mob psychology and is out to get Donald Trump and intimidate and divide his party. But its like Ghost Busters, the more you attack him the more unimaginably powerful he becomes!

    You've created your own Destructor!

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    Let me know the next time a Corporation gives birth. While the Supreme Court did rule that way, I didn't like it because it came out of corporate political donations. I prefer not to have corporations having that much influence over politics.
     
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    Corporations are made of people who have the right to free speech. You can't violate the constitution because you don't like corporations being involved in our political process.
     
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    Corporations are made of people
    So a group of people are now plus one person as well as themselves.

    BTW, "violation the constitution", why was that brought up.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech.
    The number of people is irrelevant.
     
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    You do know that the supreme Court ruling benefit Union's as much as cooperation's right? Why so hostile?
     
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    If he does that, he'll lose my respect. GavnoHillary deserved everything that came her way.
     
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    It's not an opinions, it's the law. Corporations can enter into legal transactions, they pay taxes, can sue and be sued. But of course they're people. What a joke!
     
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    Damn straight. We don't suddenly lose our civil rights simply because we act as group. These folks are nuts. And The Electorat no longer buys their nonsense. Even Chuck Schumer is waking up: Chuck Schumer Slams Hillary: Democrats to Blame, Not Russia For Election Loss

    Democrats are beginning to face reality as the 2018 elections loom. Russia! Russia! Russia! isn't going to cut it! Amazed that they have wasted this much time on it.
     
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    Actually they've been doing that for years.
     
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    There are lefties still angry about the 2000 election. Still blaming Bush. Still blaming Reagan.

    6 months? You ain't seen nothing yet.
     
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    I really think the left is lost unless they have a supreme leader/ a mom or daddy to look up too..with Trump they are lost.


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    By Supreme Leader for the Progressive Leftists, I expect you are referring to someone like Stalin, Mao, Castro or Maduro?
     
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    That's right! She had the Press behind her and outspent him 2/1 in their minds, she couldn't lose!

    The day the press lost its power

    In their weekly Sunday morning news shows, ABC, CBS, and NBC put the power of the press on full display on November 6, 2016, two days before the election. At long last, they would elect Hillary president, nearly a quarter of a century after she first ran as co-president. The polls showed her ahead.

    They all agreed.

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    CHUCK TODD: "Pennsylvania, Chris?"

    CHRIS MATTHEWS: "Yeah, I was in the Democratic City Meeting of all the war leaders Friday at noontime. I mean, they let me in. They don't usually do that. And that's when they hand out the street money. Okay? It's real. 200 bucks for a voting division. And these guys are all pros."

    CHUCK TODD: "What’s street money used for?"

    CHRIS MATTHEWS: "It's all professional, it's all legal. You basically pay people to go out door-to-door starting at 11 in the morning, you roust 'em out of the house. If they haven't voted, you say, "Why haven't you voted?" You go back at 4:30 in the afternoon, roust 'em again. You make sure that in these congested all Democratic districts, where everybody is a Democrat, they all vote.

    "And you turn in a plurality of 450,000 votes coming out of the city. Now with the suburbs being basically 50/50, a little more pro-Hillary this time because of professional women, college-educated women, they're going to win the state with that. It's very professional and I don't know what Trump’s thinking about. I asked Brady, the boss of the city, I said, 'What's--what’s he talking about? He's going to carry Pennsylvania.' He said, 'He's propagandizing, it's his own mind. It's not going to happen."

    TOM BROKAW: "Well, what we're seeing is Donald Trump, the one that we've known in New York for a long time. His ego overrides everything else, including judgment. He has mistaken those big crowds that he gets, as he got again last night, 10-15-25,000 people for how you run a general election. And he thinks by showing up, he's going to get people who are going to show up there at his rally, but it's 25,000, it's not two million that he needs in every state. He is mistaken about what it takes to win."

    CHUCK TODD: "Our brand new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll which showed Hillary Clinton ahead of Donald Trump 44 to 40. Our pollsters, Bill McInturff is the republican pollster and co-founder of Public Opinion Strategies and from team blue Fred Yang of Hart Research. Alright Fred I’ll start with you. Clinton is winning so I’ll let team blue begin. How durable is this 4-point lead?"

    FRED YANG: "I think it’s pretty durable, Chuck. The difference between the poll we conducted a couple weeks ago and now is that Trump made up ground with groups he needed to make up ground with: Republicans, white, non-college educated. But to me the most important number for the Clinton campaign and why I think her lead is durable is if a candidate in politics is having momentum they should be winning with independents. In our poll he’s losing with independents by 6 points."

    CHARLIE COOK: "Feingold wins. Katie McGinty wins."

    (Both lost, as Trump took their states and Republicans held the Senate.)

    CHRIS MATTHEWS: "I think the biggest news in this country is going to be the election of the first woman president. It’s going to blow our minds when it actually happens. It’s going to be a new world for young women like my daughter."

    JOHN HEILEMANN, BLOOMBERG POLITICS: "We get those results earlier. African-Americans in North Carolina, suburban, Philadelphia suburbs turnout, like just raw numbers in Philadelphia, whether Clinton can run up the totals there, that will kind of lock down Pennsylvania if she does.

    (He took North Carolina and Pennsylvania, and the presidency.)

    MATTHEW DOWD, ABC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: "I think she's got about a 95 percent chance in this election and I think she's going to have a higher margin than Barack Obama did in 2012. She's going to have a more diverse coalition of voters than Barack Obama even had when you look at the final numbers in this race. Every piece of data points in that direction and my view is you take the facts into account and that's what the data says."

    DOWD: "On election night Hillary Clinton's margins among non-white voters and college educated will be the highest we've ever seen."

    ALEX CASTELLANOS, CHAIR, PURPLE STRATEGIES: "He's going to get 44 percent, but he's the solution to the problem that Republican voters see. He is nothing more than an expression of the outrage of a lot of Republican voters at the Republican establishment. Our party is broken and unless we -- this is the last election we can crank up our engine way past the red line and try to get 178 percent of the old white guy vote and win anything."

    DOWD: "She's going to 50-45. She's going to get very close to that 50 number, which I think would be significant. And, I think she's going to win 341 electoral votes, which means she takes Ohio. The only two states that flip are Iowa and North Carolina."

    KIRSTEN SOLTIS ANDERSON, ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: "I wind up going -- starting with that Romney map and I add to Trump's column Ohio, and I add Iowa. But then I take away North Carolina. I think that's a state that potentially a Republican could -- could lose this time around. And then there's Congressional district in Maine. It winds up giving me a prediction of 322 for Clinton."

    ELLISON: "I see 341. I think she's going to get 50.1 percent of the vote."

    CASTELLANOS: "Two hundred and eighty-six electoral votes for Donald Trump. He wins North Carolina and Ohio and goes up through the Rust Belt. He barely hangs on in Florida. And I think if he does lose, the rational brain said it would be because of the Hispanic vote in Florida. But I think he edges that out and the exit polls, Kerry-Bush."

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I love your faith."

    CASTELLANOS: "I think there's a secret, magical Trump vote."

    (LAUGHTER)

    They threw caution to the wind, and with it, their credibility, which is the source of their power.

    Was the source of their power.

    The next week there were excuses. There were recriminations. There were sad, sad faces.

    But my favorite was this exchange on "Face the Nation" on November 13.

    JACQUELINE ALEMANY, CBS NEWS DIGITAL JOURNALIST: "Then you have the low moments, though what was amazing to me amongst Trump supporters was that there were never any low moments despite the media narrative."

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "No."

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Yes, that’s right."

    ALEMANY: "I went to a -- the watch -- a watch party in Parma for -- hosted by a group of Trump supporters after the lewd tape had come out, the 'Access Hollywood' tape. And people were cheering and hooting and hollering the entire time and walked away, you know, that Donald Trump blew -- blew us away. He won hands down. That was it. You know, it was a completely different narrative. And I don’t think Trump supporters lost faith once throughout this whole thing."

    I know Parma. Southwest suburb of Cleveland. Named its high schools Parma, Normandy and Valley Forge. Pretty ethnic. Pretty patriotic.

    You know, maybe if the networks had listened to the people instead of the polls, then the networks might not have been so surprised.

    The media lost on November 8, 2016. Bigger than Clinton. She can tell herself, hey, I was the first one to try to be the first woman president and I will be revered when we finally elect one.

    But what does the media get?

    Egg on the faces of all those experts.

    By the way, no one lost their job. It's as if the network bosses want ignorant people giving their opinions on Sunday morning.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-day-press-lost-its-power.html#more
     
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    They actually do eat their young:
    I've remarked on this before in the context of Obamacare, how a declining birth rate and increasing longevity inevitably make "free", universal and unlimited healthcare unsustainable.
    Those "committed" obligations are basically 'entitlements'.
    In addition to the simple demographic problem of fewer taxpayers contributing to sustain an increasingly aged population that lives longer, rising costs of primary goods and environmental degradation will make things even more difficult for the next generation.
     
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    Bush and Reagan were elected, and acted as Presidents. "Hillary" didn't. Attacking HRC would be akin to Democrats blaming all of the world's woes on McCain, for exemple, or any defeated candidate that never ever sat in the Oval Office. They're irrelevant. Nobody cares about HRC, even in the fall of 2016: If people did, you guys wouldn't have 55% of the eligible electorate getting at the urns.

    It's completely useless. You are wasting time and energy on a dead, very dead horse.
     
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