Seattle’s Wage Mandate Kills Restaurants

You demonstrate routinely and yes we are a VERY rich country where you can accumulate lots of wealth and lots of people do and you can even get VERY wealthy does that mean there will be people who do not yes does that mean some other country's economy is better and has a higher standard of living no.

 

They are unconstitutional laws, whether I like them or not.

 

SCOTUS is not an oligarchy.

No, it's an argument.

Because VISA is not those other people. VISA doesn't determine what I need to make ends meet.

No you didn't.

 

To get SNAP for a family of 3 your maximum income can only be $13.50 an hour. So it would go down for those people for sure.

Hasn't killed it yet
Hasn't killed it yet. But it does look like LA is about built out.

 

Well, your going to need to move to some other country to find a government to agree with you.
Should I say bye, bye now or do you want to think about it.

 

Seattle is the 5th most restraint dense city in the US. You picked out 1 restaurant that obviously wasn’t doing well in the first place to make your point ? MAYBE, just MAYBE, that restaurant sucked ? There are roughly 16,000 restraints and bars in Seattle and one closing because he cant afford the help is your battlecry ?

https://www.quora.com/How-many-total-restaurants-are-there-in-Seattle

Ask yourself a simple question: Why does america have a “tipped wage” cutout for restaurants and bars ? Why should your waitress make $2.35 an hour, and then expect the customers to make up for the wage the owner doesn’t want to pay ? How about they just pay these people the actual minimum wage ? Why should taxpayer be forced to subsidize people who actually work for a living ?

 

What “mistake” ?

Your already bailing waiter an waitress’ out because they get government subsidies because they don't make a “living wage”. So why should my taxes go to subsidize a restaurant ?

 

Still not seeing any sources.

It's a simple fact of life in the US

They get to underpay their staff, so management and owners get more.
Money brought up from taxing, mostly the middle class.

You sure are showing me

They get to underpay their staff, so management and owners get more.
Money brought up from taxing, mostly the middle class

They caused the bankruptcy and still got billions in bonuses for "a job well done".
Total joke. And poorly deflecting by you

They caused the economic crisis by taking high risks, and got bonuses in the billions for crashing the economy.
Total joke. And poorly deflecting by you

You're free to debunk it. And here... have an other one:
https://tcf.org/content/commentary/making-economic-case-15-minimum-wage/?agreed=1

I'm not talking about average hourly wage, but the bottom 40%

 

When 40% of the country earns 15 bucks or less.... than they have a poor standard of living compared to the other western countries with lavish social and healthcare plans. Just hilarious you think it's higher. And you're just avoiding why CEO/management needs to earn such an incredible high wage compared to people at the bottom. How petty.

 

You're just mad about the rule of law in the United States. Nothing unlawful about the minimum wage.

It aint backed up with anything, hence it's just a silly opinion.

You're not responding to my argument that VISA does get to see all the bills and is a business all about finance,...
So they do get to know what is needed. Your claim they do not, is not backed up with anything.

That's again... your silly opinion not backed up by anything.

 

So you want 40% of the workers to earn minimum wage?

How noble of you to make everyone poor, that's the ticket every one miserable!!!

 

Lol was it $13.50 in 1983?

 

I think you missed the question.

 

I want the minimum wage that high, that there aren't taxes raised to pay for food stamps. Food stamps are only there in place, so big managers can underpay their staff and take home a big salary and hand over big profits to investors. Those people already earn plenty. Utterly insane the government is assisting them, making even more money... at the expense of everybody. We can cut taxes, we need to cut taxes even.

 

People at the top are laid off as well.

I can tell you've never worked in upper management. It's a little more complicated than stocking shelves. I work (almost) 7 days a week (I get Sunday off when I have a good week). I take calls at night (from West Coast people), I have meetings before I even go into work, and I have several bosses in several different places.

There's a reason upper management is paid what they are. Your company is made or broken by those pulling the strings, not by the ones sweeping the floors.

 

It is actually in VISA's best interest to encourage people to live beyond their means and put everything on a credit card.

The cost of living as determined by the federal government is a more reliable measure. (And at the moment that minimum comes out to $8.04/hour for a single person working full time. NOT $15. The debate about $15 is asinine and unsubstantiated.)

Any halfway decent waiter/waitress will make far more than minimum wage because of tips. Ask any decent waiter/waitress and they'll tell you they'd rather stick with the tipping method of pay rather than a standardized minimum wage. Think of it like working on commission ---- the better you do, the better you can get paid. Why should a crappy waiter/waitress get paid the same as a great one? I put myself thru college as a waitress....

The minimum wage only needs to be $8.04/hour in order for a single, full time employee to be ineligible for food stamps.

 

I don't have to move anywhere. I am living under the current law of the land. If YOU don't like it, YOU move...

 

Oh, my bad. I thought you were upset with minimum wage laws and the fact the Supreme Court supported them.

 

No, I only oppose the rule of law being ignored, as it is being ignored in the case of a federal minimum wage.

The federal government has no power to implement one. See Article I of the US Constitution.

It is an argument that is backed up by the US Constitution itself. I have provided that source to you already.

RAAA. (Repetitious Argumentation Already Addressed).

That's again... your silly opinion not backed up by anything.

 

Charts are fun. There are articles about the struggling restaurant business in LA, but living here, I can see the changes. I grew up here and my wife and I like to eat out once a week. (Date night) We have been going to the same restaurants for years and even know our servers by name. Here are the obvious changes so far:

Menu prices are up.
Service is much slower since each server is responsible for more tables.
Restaurants that used to require reservations and a wait time now have empty tables.
Some restaurants have already closed.

I go to Home Depot/Lowes at least once a week. Both have moved to 90% self check out. They have one employee handling 6 checkout stations.

The supermarket has hand scanners to take through the store. You scan the items as you put them in the cart and and click "checkout" when you're done. My card is already on file.

This only increases tax revenue for the government.

 

The Supreme Court does not determine the law of the land. They operate UNDER the US Constitution, not over it. See Article III of the US Constitution.

 

This story was published yesterday.

Seattle Restaurant Worker: I’m a Progressive, but the Minimum Wage Law Killed Jobs Including Mine

This city’s minimum wage is rising to $16.39 an hour on Jan. 1. Instead of receiving a bigger paycheck, I’m left without any pay at all due to the policy change. That’s because the restaurant where I’ve worked for six years is closing as a consequence of the city’s harmful minimum-wage experiment.
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When rent is too high, labor costs too much, and customers don’t want to pay $40 for a roast-chicken entree, the only way for many operators to ease the pain is to close.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...GvWqVQJ8kvTYsPK27rOPqP99z_JqCp4NMsxjQGU9PLrj0

 

In Los Angeles, the min wage goes to $15. next week. On a positive note, at least there will be more vacant buildings for homeless tweakers!

 

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