So this series is about drug addiction, but that aside, there are no global, socalist, utopian politicians in America. Well there are, but they aren't in office in Seattle. The best way to deal with homelessness is to give them homes funded by the tax payers. I know, you disagree, but you're wrong. The problem, as I opened with, is drug use. Many homeless individuals are either suffering from extreme addiction or mental illness. Neither of which gets treated by yelling at them from your car to get a job. Sorry, that's never helped anyone. The reason they are suffering from these problems is varied, but the one thing that doesn't help is living in constant fear on the streets. Not necessarily fear of the law, though the police aren't equipped to deal with the homeless nor is it their primary job, but the fear of literally life on the street. That lack of feeling of security makes the mentally ill more ill and the addicted more likely to take refuge in drugs. Also, the mentally ill often try to self remedy which is alcohol and drugs. Providing homes takes that one basic fear off the table and solves one of the biggest physiological needs all humans have, safe shelter. Start with that and food and water, and now there's a chance they will get help on their own for their other problems. After that, there's a chance they get jobs and pay taxes. It's been proven to work, where as yelling at them to get a job from your car window works 0% of the time. So, if you truly care about solving problems, start solving the problem. If you just want to be an internet troll and argue that democrats are bad, well gee, there's an original post on these forums...
Yep, it's called motivated reasoning. Seattle is a way better city than say Houston or Dallas or any place located in Texas. Oh, don't forget the republican controlled Alaska that is economically great and meth free! Or the south with all it's GOP lead states, counties and cities that are drug free and have the lowest (aka highest) rates of teen pregnancy in the nation! But let's talk about some homeless people in Seattle, yeah, that's the real problem...
You use this word trolling, but I do not think it means what you think it means. And yeah, that part of the video says exactly what I said. That still doesn't change the reality than many in this thread would refuse to take the intervention steps I or the author of the video is calling for. So, if you think MY response is trolling, please read any other thread on today's current events board for an accurate comparison. And if you have nothing to say back to me, then spoiler alert, it's NOT required to reply.
Democrats in these cities don't actually work to resolve problems, they point fingers and conjure up racist issues and look like they are working on getting things done. Frequently, when they do finally do something, it's always the wrong thing. A perfect example is working against ICE, declaring they will not work with the Federal Gov't, handing out drug needles and supporting laws that punish taxpayers and reward criminals. Cities need mayor's like Rudy Giuliani was in NYC. He cleaned that city up. Bloomberg took over and it did alright but started to slide and is now once again awful because of De Blasio. It just goes to prove that Democrats are incapable, for the most part, of actually running cities. They do much more damage than good and instead of trying to fix the mistakes, they double down and point fingers at someone else. They have no accountability whatsoever and can't make tough decisions for the good of the people.
Unless you live in the Seattle area, you know NOTHING about what you are talking about. Drug addiction, homelessness and property crime is out of control. So for you and anyone else who is interested in open borders and unlimited illegal immigration, where do we draw the line and say enough is enough, 10 Million more illegal Aliens, 100 million more illegal Aliens, maybe a BILLION or should we just have the entire Worlds population come to America and who's going to pay for all the services they are going to be demanding. Pretty soon the homeless drug addicts and criminals are going to be pissed, because all their GIMMEE'S are going to pay for illegal aliens sneaking into this country. If you love illegals so much and accept the kind of BS that's going on in Seattle, San Francisco and any other Liberal controlled city, maybe you should invite these people into your own homes or adopt a bunch of kids brought up here from Central America or Mexico.
Your opening sentence is false. Seattle is NOT unique nor even facing the worst of these problems. Sorry to burst that bubble, but talk to New Yorker's about city problems you are having and they will laugh and curse in your face and they will be right to. Call your city dying to someone from Detroit and they will probably do the same. Lastly, I said nothing in my previous response about immigration, but you linking the two is false. If we allowed more immigrant labor into this country to work legally and easily, we would have a larger tax base to provide the solutions to the addicted and mentally ill in Seattle and nation wide. Sorry you don't understand how to solve problems. Or read internet posts apparently.
New York was facing a much more serious issue and was much more about crime than homelessness. It was a 20 year effort, that started before Giuliani became mayor, that built to New York's success and much of the work wasn't being "tough on crime" as it was focusing on how to solve problems that were causing the crime. It's not like Rudy was out there Batmanning it on his own...
That is some of the worst "problem solving" I have ever read. Solve the problem by giving people homes? Why not just give them homes, cars, food, spending cash, clothes, tickets to the movies, xbox's with a monthly gaming allowance and credit cards that tax payers can all pay for. No wonder cities are in such decay. Not only does that not solve the problem, it just crushes taxpayers and makes things much much worse. No, you're wrong and frankly, I can't even believe someone would have such a silly argument. How about we all get jobs and earn our homes and accessories and let our taxes work for the people in society and not drag into the gutter. How about all the help to combat homelessness comes from charities, like it's supposed to. Give them all homes paid for by the taxpayers..... Dumbest thing I have ever heard. Did you actually post this with a straight face or were you just trolling and being funny?
I'm sure whatever you were going to post was hilarious, but sadly, we didn't get to see it right way...
Nonsense. The city was in turmoil before Rudy took over due to corruption scandals in the Democratic party. How do you think a Republican even won in such a liberal area? It was Rudy that set the agenda and the tone to go after crime and clean up the city. You are a perfect example of why cities today are failing. You give credit to those who did nothing and take away the accomplishments of others based on political party.
You've read your own posts before, right? So there's no way is the dumbest you've seen then! Giving people a home is the start. Providing public assistance to get them off drugs is the next step. Providing mental health care for free is also part of it. You are just another roll down the window and yell at them to get a job guy. That's OK, at least you realize it about yourself. And recognizing the problem is the first step. The next is reading books. Canada and Utah have utilized the home first theory with more success than your lack of solution has ever achieved. It's not a perfect and be all end all solution, but it's still better than your festering turd of an idea. Tell me, how do you get a job when are a schizophrenic with no home address? I suggest you apply for jobs and in the interview tell them your homeless. Let me know how it goes. Oh, and try to get a home when you are homeless. Even better, tell them you live in a shelter. Go on, show me how smart you really are.
Thanks, I'm in a foot stomping mood. Truth is, I can barely use the quotes part right much less post hilarious gif's.
The tone was already set, Rudy simply followed up and appointed good people. I'm not trying to deny him credit, I'm merely saying it wasn't his idea. He executed a plan that was in the works since the 80's. It's like claiming Reagan ended the Soviet Union, it's simply not true. And not everything Rudy pushed for worked for the record. You are confusing being honest about reality with challenging something you believe, that Rudy did it all himself. New York City isn't nearly as liberal as you may think. It's actually relatively conservative mostly because it's full of rich people who work on Wall Street and they largely own the politics. It wasn't the rich fat cats that were there for decades that forced the city's hand. It was people living in the crime affected communities that pushed to make it happen. Please ready history instead of just believing what you are told by the GOP.
Another issue is how the question is framed. The city council keeps talking about 'the homeless' when in fact, according to many in Seattle that deal with 100% of the 'homeless' are drug addicts. They increased the amount of heroin you can have on you by 3 grams, which is about 20 doses so the dealers don't carry more than 3 grams at a time.
So no problem with urine, ****, and used needles on the streets as long as you don't see them. Fascinating.
Maybe Seattle could take a lesson from San Francisco. Ban plastic straws. Hand out 5 million plastic syringes a year. Genius stuff, these leftists.
Sure. The answer is to give them homes. The free stuff is what's attracting them and the solution is to give them more free stuff. But, there aren't any socialists. How is that a solution?
First of all, your premise is that someone gorked out on drugs or being ravaged by mental illness is motivated by "free stuff." They aren't. They are motivated by their next score or the voices in their head. These people are suffering from a disassociation from reality or pain they perceive as so terrible it can only be solved by serious drug use. They aren't interested in politics at all. They aren't lured by free stuff. Here's the proof. We offer free shelters (many of which aren't any different than living on the streets) and food and yet they still refuse to take that help from churches and shelters and live on the streets. Why? Because they aren't in the right fame of mind. Give them a home, give them treatment for drugs and/or mental illness and they will improve. That's the solution. Anything you say opposite to that has proven not to work because we currently do next to nothing for them as it is.
