Secretary of State Pompey says hack was 'pretty clearly Russian

I am aware of the fake claims made. Just 4 yrs of deep state?
But no evidence of any deep states has ever been presented.

Now, back to reality.

 

I don't disagree about weaning off China, but as for the cybersecurity, our issue is currently the US government's insistence on having golden keys to electronic encryption. Creating the backdoor for Uncle Sam creates it for China and Russia as well.

 

Meh, for the sufferers there is never any evidence even if it slaps you in the face.

 

And as usual, you have an opportunity to present your case with evidence and yet once again, you can't.
That must really slap you in the face.

 

Russia is not our enemy. We've been at war with Russia since the end of the cold war when Clinton reneged on the promise made to Gorbachev that the US would not expand NATO in return for dissolving the Soviet Union.

 

What a load. Clinton was not president until Jan 1993 . George H. Bush was POTUS in Aug 1991 when the coup against Gorby failed and the USSR unraveled. Gorbachov was forced to accept the dissolution of the USSR after the failed coup attempt that had Mikey as a prisoner forva couple few days. Gorby was trying to get the 15 Soviet Republics to sign on to a " New Union Treaty". After the Aug 19th 1991 coup the three Baltic countries ( Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, ) led the way declared independence from the USSR. On Saturaday Aug. 24, 1991 Ukraine declared independence, The Russian Federated Soviet Socialist Republic declared it was leaving the USSR next. Khazakstan , Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan , Tajikistan, Kygjstan, Belarus, Moldova, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan. Ukraine was the key. Without Ukraine there was no USSR.

I grew up waiting for the USSR to fall apart. My dad was of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists as a teen in 1939 and he was wanted by the KGB since 1941 until the USSR fell apart. I absolutely know the history of the USSR and especially from 1988 thru 1991.

Three countries Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus signed documents recognizing each other's independence on Dec. 8, 1991 . A few days later Gorby called togethervwhat was left of the Soviet Parliament and rubber stamped what the three key countries did on Dec 8, 1991.

So just to sum it up George H Bush was president when the USSR died in 1991 and since Clinton was not innaugerated until Jan 20, 1992 and there was no USSR anymore Clinton would not be talking to Gorbachov about NATO.

Please get your facts straight and correct before the next time you try to challenge me about Russia, Ukraine, or the USSR.

 

You know nothing will come of this right? What are we going to do, bomb Russia? The Biden Administration will take the matter to the UN where it will end up in some sub-committee and we'll never hear about it again. China and Russia have the stronger position in these games and every nation in the world knows it. We're going to spend the next 4 years tear ourselves apart over pointless SJW social issues and gutting our energy industry while those nations will continue to bulk up and throw punches and then dare us to swing back knowing full well we wont and cant. The idea that we can cuck ourselves and still be the big dog is fkin laughable.

 

Clinton broke the promise Bush made. He also imposed Neo-Liberal policies on Russia that ruined lives and shoved a corrupt drunken fool (Yeltsin) on Russia. (The same people who have been screaming about Russian interference) They have since expanded NATO and supported a coup in Ukraine which is the equivalent of Russia supporting a coup in Mexico. Russiagate hysteria began with Clinton after Wikileaks leaked her emails and was promoted by the warmongers who invaded Iraq, the corporate media and bottom feeders like Rachel Maddow, and used to keep Trump from having better relations with Russia. US military spending in 2019 was 732 billion and is even bigger now. Russia was 65.1 billion. The US is a much bigger threat than Russia.

 

Trump doesn’t even have the courage to do that. Why not?

 

Trump is so predictable at this point. When this first came out, everyone knew he would deflect and blame China. He didn't disappoint. Why is Trump so scared to confront Russia? Is he too busy signing executive orders to protect statues?

 

ANYTHING to deflect from China have spies in bed with Democrats in Congress, driving around Democrats in Congress, on the staff of Democrats in Congress, buying the president...

... if Biden does become president, the Chinese flag should be flown over the White House and flown at every Democratic Party gathering.

 

As McCain put it, Russia is nothing but a gas station. It is socially and financial broke. The enemy is China - and China is winning. I fear the USA is to the world economically and socially what Russia is to the world now, a government that is a criminal plutocracy and kleptocracy with a collapsed economy and semi disfunctional society - though for substance abuse it will narcotics rather than alcohol.

The decline of the USA is at breakneck speed - at the hands of the International plutocrats who now own every newspaper, television network and control 99% of social media. I wouldn't be surprised if in the not distant future Google refuses to list this forum. Censorship unlike in the entire history of the USA - all based upon a singular standard - what is most is most profitable in money and power to the International plutocrats.

The American plutocrats - of Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft - are all business partners with Chinese plutocrats. They all have the same agenda and same goals. What is best for the USA isn't any consideration whatsoever. They goal now is to bleed every last debt dollar the USA has until the dollar is a worthless with hyper inflation worse that the German Papiermark in 1923, worth less than toilet paper.

I hope I'm wrong. Truly. But as the government now has increased debt spending by 400% in one year in a bill that nearly 50% is nothing but graft and stealing, I don't see this turning around now that it is accepted that it is the government's duty to give endless free money to everyone, American or not - all so this money then (after all stolen by graft) goes to the plutocrats and China.

As for the bragging of stock market increases? That is because business wealth is being transferred from the merchant middle class to the mega plutocrat corporations. Not only does stock market increased do nothing for over half of all Americans, it is so radically over values it really is just a Ponzi scheme of speculation piled on top of speculation on top of speculation - which is what lead to the great depression. Speculators buying from speculators where the increase in value is only for the speculation always causes a crash. The most common example is real estate. Everyone is getting rich on speculating upon speculating - until it breaks and then the speculators are filing bankruptcy.

Being Internationalists, the plutocrats don't care if the bleed the USA in to 3rd beggar status. Have no reason to care in the slightest. The future is in the East, not West - and they know. Read Bloomberg sometime explaining why he will do anything China demands.

But, then, it no longer takes a depression to throw tens of millions of Americans into unemployment. All it takes is the plutocrats demanding nearly all their competitors ordered to shut down by non-legislative totalitarian edicts by any of the 50 governors and/or 20,000 mayors.

I truly hope I'm wrong, but increasingly I can't see a different future for our country. Even a country can't function forever by writing itself more and bigger hot checks to cover the tens of trillions of prior hot checks - all at interest rates also paid to the International plutocrats. They make money off every national debt they create - in return for we the people seeing the value of our tiny share eaten away by inflation ever more money that is backed up by absolutely nothing.

As of 2014, this was the USA's economic total picture:
The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP) as of Q1 2014.
https://www.google.com/search?safe=...AhXHxVkKHRO2At8QBSgAegQIAhAw&biw=1366&bih=657

There has been 8 more years of massive added debt - now the debt exceeding the entire federal budget - 4 trillion - spending 8 trillion. At the current rate, the value of literally everything in the USA - every of any value. Your house, cars, clothing, every inch of land and every building - will not be worth the debt - pure national bankruptcy.

Or maybe China will keep taking worthless dollars backed up by nothing for the crap they make upon which Americans depend on now. Even our military is dependent on Chinese products. Our industrial capacity is so nearly non-existent we couldn't even make paper masks for months. Nearly all American companies are no longer American companies. Every major beer company - Coors, Bud, Miller - are not American companies. Germany bought up our company's largest chemical supplier about 4 years ago. When there is nothing left of the USA to buy with their American debt dollars, the value of the dollar goes to next nothing.

And the richest people in the world will be many times richer when that happens.

 

AND...

Trump LOVED China..

How quickly they forget...

Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’
US president says relations with China are at an all-time high.

https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-on-chinas-xi-we-love-each-other/

 

This was after China approved a handful of patents for Ivanka Trump. Also worth nothing Ivanka Trump merchandise is not under the trade tariff, but that's just a big coincidence!

 

‘Cos no Democrat be pleased with no matter what Trump would do. Democrats will democrat and be pissed still.

 

Boris the Drunk Yeltsin had emerged in 1985 as first secretary of the Moskva Communist party hense mayor of Moskva blessed by Mickey Mikey Gorbashov. Look at history in 1985 you have Billy telling Gorby what to do from where Arkansas. Get serious man your credibility is diving a warp speed.

There was no coup in Ukraine that was manufactured by the Kremlin by Putin who is loved by the allied gang of terrorists most Russians Trump supporters, and of course the confused man child playing POTUS the Trumpocity.
There is no Russia hysteria and look at what gebonee is lying about Russia hacking when even Billy Barr is telling the truth. Just because Donnie -Benny Arnold - Trump crawls above the ground like a worm on the first warm day in Spring after a night rain on his way to kiss the butt of the KGB colonel does make Russia a Switzerland.

You have spouted nothing but anti American, anti democratic, and pro Russian terrorist diarrhea that is loved by the Trump fans but know as utter garbage by any group of intelligent patriotic Americans.

Stop it and find patriotism or maybe your next address should be Sochi Russia. Have a nice trip.

 

What sense does it make to believe a man who is a known liar?

What sense does it make to believe a man who has bragged in public that his organization "We lie, we cheat, we steal"?

 

So he’s acting weak because if he does the right thing he will be criticized by his political opponents? When has that ever stopped him?

He’s acting weak because he is weak - towards Putin. I’m quite sure we will find out why eventually. At which point many of his supporters will distance themselves and say,”but I didn’t know that at the time!” Ignoring the fact that all the signs of him being compromised were there all along.

 

No, we will retaliate with a cyberattack of our own.

 

So Trump bases his actions on national security on how the Democrats will react? Are you TRYING to male Trump look mentally ill and incompetent?

 

No, I'm not trying to male Trump, he's male in his own right.

And Trump be trumping, pissing democrats off no matter what he does.

 

And republicans. And our allies. But the lower IQ people among us and our foreign adversaries seem to love him.

 

Yawn. You have spouted nothing but xenophobia, ignorance and warmongering from the safety of your home. No different then the propaganda preceding the Iraq War by the same terrorist's foaming at the math now. I welcome your infantile attacks.

 

The enlightened, intelligent, educated, tolerant liberal Democrats on display!

 

Of course I tolerate them. And you. I wish no ill will on anyone.