Senate Democrats propose requiring women to register for military draft

I'm trying to eliminate that bipartisan support and get conservatives to support my alternative instead.

And why shouldn't Democrats be willing to support it? Their women can go ahead and become eligible for the draft and not have to suffer any inconvenience related to their abortions.

 

that is a dumb statement. All along we have heard that women in the movement and their political allies like Dems want the rights but not 'true equality' when it comes to doing the heavy lifting and pointing to this very statute as evidence.
. This bill is about discrimination based in gender that is locked into a statute written decades ago when far fewer women enlisted, when there were no women admirals or generals and women had not already proved themselves valuable in the military during wartime

. Now you can argue that women are not of value in military service, and undermine the credibility and value of all these approximately 200 people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_military_generals_and_flag_officers. Or you can argue that their service has proven that women have been valuable assets in our fights for freedom and register them alongside men. If that is true, then women have an equal duty to register alongside men.

 

Why are you trying to get anyone to support your 'alternative? Its nonsensical. You can't even explain it coherently into a concept.

Just try to explain this 'idea'

"How about when a woman turns 18 she can choose between 2 different life courses. One of them makes her eligible for the draft, the other she is not allowed to get an elective abortion"

Now help us all understand how this works. You can start with this 'two life courses' part. Why are there two, and where did the rest of the 'life courses' disappear to. This is going to be fun.

 

It's not complicated.

She gets a form to fill out and decides. If she chooses option B, and there happens to be war later, then she is eligible to be drafted.

If she chooses option A and later happens to have an unwanted pregnancy, well then she'll just have to deal with it.

 

Gotta love this thread. Now all of a sudden we aren’t equal? Hmmmm, very interesting

 

Then it should be easy peasy. What is a 'life course' and why are there only two? I am going to make you look very foolish here.

 

Do you want three options, or do you think there should only be one?

It sounds like you only want her to have one option.

 

All I'm saying is that if women want to be "liberated", they should expect to be treated like a man -- with all the good things and bad that comes along with that.

But I'm in favor of giving women the individual choice whether they want that.
No need to apply a cookie-cutter approach to all women or everybody.

 

Answer the questions. . What is a life course? (Its your language not mine. I have never used the phrase, or heard it) Why are there only two life courses.

 

Life course means whatever choice she makes between those two options, she has committed to that course, if not for her entire lifetime then at least for a long period of time.

We don't want women to try to wriggle out of their responsibilities. Like if they find themselves pregnant, it shouldn't be fair for her to switch options. Or if a war is about to start, it shouldn't be fair for her to switch options. 10 year commitment at least. If she wants to change her designation on the list, it should take at least 10 years from the time she formally decides to change.

 

Then registration would just be a symbolic gesture. Better yet, don’t require anyone to register.

 

What are the 'two life courses' men are obliged to choose from for over ten years on the form so that they don't wriggle out of responsibility, and why do you think its a good idea for Congress to be forcing people into ten year 'life courses' in the first place when conscription was for a far more limited time frame of 2-3 years.

 

LOL... just more "Control Those Women" wet dreams...

 

I'm seeing a lot of conservative backlash against this on twitter, and in theory, I would agree; it's a ridiculous country that sends it's young mothers to a war zone.

However...we do that now anyway. And the current selective service system requires men to register to be eligible for federal student loans, but not women. My compromise would be to have women register but make registration voluntary.

 

No I think it lasted quite a bit longer, up through January 2009, President Obama's inauguration.

 

A quote from Twitter

Many men in America have nothing to be grateful to this Society for. Especially

-- men who lost careers over unfounded allegations

-- male victims of DV who were arrested

-- men who lost most of their property in divorce

 

I think it should include a compulsory three month basic training, it will do them good to run around and be yelled at.

 

Well, there were a few of us left in the early 2000's. My stepfather would attend Vigils for Peace every week. I would attend with him on occasion. I got an email about 3 weeks before Obama was inaugurated: "We're ending this. There just doesn't seem be any interest any more. There are more counterprotesters than there are protesters."