Serious question -- what do Trump supporters think the citizenship question was supposed to DO?

Your circular "why do we need the question?... And if we need it they won't answer it" logic is a clear sign that you have been provided with valid reasons which you can't refute.

PS lest we forget redistricting which is based on the number of citizens who can actually vote. Lest we forget educational, healthcare, transportation needs of each area that the census data provides. Duh

 

How will this question help us find out the number of illegals?

 

So the question, are you a citizen or not will not answer the question of whether you are a citizen or not?

 

I took for granted that people were aware about the whole census question regarding citizenship. Maybe that was assuming to much. You see, the quote from Trump at the beginning is in regards to a question he wanted to ask on the census. Get it now?

Again, I took for granted that people reading this thread would know about the citizenship question. Maybe that was too much to hope for.

Which has nothing to do with the citizenship question on the census that Trump and I are talking about.

 

Read what you just quoted again. That's not what it said. Your question assumes that everyone who is not a citizen is an illegal immigrant. That isn't true.

 

That's not circular, and no one has provided an answer yet.

Source?

 

Ya you did, and then you made a big deal of it LOL

 

Yes, I made a mistake assuming that people would know what the citizenship question was. Now that you know, can you finally get around to answering the question?

 

Duh, I don't think I made it any clearer than post #24.

 

Here is a better question, What was Obama goal in removing the question from the census long form in 2010 in your opinion? It had been on long form since 1970 and all forms in prior censuses with some exceptions.

Do you believe, he believed asking about citizenship was some dark sinister plot in prior censuses?

 

Make up your mind, is the purpose of the question to determine the number of non-citizens or the number of illegals? You keep flip-flopping.

 

Nah, I've had all I need of trying to second guess poorly written posts

 

To be tempted to answer your question, you'd have to answer the question in the OP first. Otherwise all you are doing is dodging.

 

In the future I won't assume a base level of awareness, no worries.

 

Believe me, you are reading WAY TO MUCH in to this post

 

Ya it's everyone else's fault lol

 

My understanding is that population affects how congressional districts and EC votes are assigned. Illegals don't get a vote, therefore they should not be counted in the census to determine such things.

I would also think some federal funding is dispersed based on population and demographics provided by the census as well, but I could be wrong. If it is though, we need not allocated any money to illegals.

 

So far as I know, being able to vote is not required for such numbers. We count children, visa holders, and greencard holders, but correct me if I'm wrong.

 

You aren't really serious asking this question, are you? The citizenship question was on the long form twenty years ago. Obama was the one who removed it.

 

Really?

- redistricting - based on the number of citizens
- reaportionment - same as above
- # of illegals in the country
- distribution of illegals throughout the country
- illegals' healthcare costs
- illegals' transportation costs
- illegals' detention facility needs
- illegals' crime rates
- illegals' public education needs and costs
....

 

1) The census does not have 100% participation from any group or area; so using your logic the entire census doesnt seem very realistic.

2) The purpose of the census in general is to get a broader sense of the population in general. With that over-arching goal in mind, learning how many non citizens and where they live absolutely lends clarity to that endeavor. It will be used to obtain a more accurate portrayal of just how many illegals that we have in this country. Having an accurate portrayal of how many illegal immigrants are in this country will give us a better handle on the scope & location of the problem, and would help to more effectively direct resources to address that problem.

 

Federal benefits are only for citizens. So we need an accurate count of our citizens in each city, county, and state for budgetary purposes.

Illegals skew the numbers.

 

Man, are you just trying too hard.

 

Yes, but non voters would not be tallied to calculate congressional districts and how EC votes are assigned.

Edit: I'm good at math not writing.

If you have 10k people in a state, but 2k are non citizens, they should not get the same amount of money or electoral votes as a state with 10k US citizens.

 

Apportionment of representation.