Shades of Nixon, Baby Donald releases his enemies list.

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    You mean everyone who SHOULD have their post government work security clearances revoked? Sweet!
     
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    Continuing:

    Admiral Mcraven:


    "Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs.

    A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.

    If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken. The criticism will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.
    "
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feel free to make the case for why.
     
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    dave8383 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Rubbish
     
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    Who works for MSNBC. A fact which you very conveniently omitted.
     
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    Gee, you think there might be a difference between you and a former head of the CIA?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you had taken the time to use the link I provided and listened to what Schmidt had to say you would have found the MSNBC logo in the bottom corner of the video. Another of your evasions...........FAILED.

    You keep trying to find any way possible to weasel out of admitting to Don's error in judgement despite condemnation from former high ranking intel officers, this guy............................
    Former commander who oversaw Bin Laden raid asks Trump to revoke his security clearance

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/16/william-mcraven-security-clearance-request-779989.........................., Repubs, and former Repubs.

    You are simply ridiculous.
     
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    Gee. Do you suppose he really needs it? Generally, they like to keep the number clearance at a minimum level, especially, top secret special category clearances.

    If he has a need, not a problem. Providing the expanded background check is no more than ten years old, getting a new clearance is relatively simple.
     
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    Look, they keep former high level intelligence officers up to date in case someone needs their expertise. It's been going on for decades. You don't create a gap in that lineage for purely political reasons.
     
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    However, it was not obvious he was employed by MSNBC. If we had omitted FOX under similar circumstances you would have screamed bloody murder.
     
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    Read what I said. If their expanded background investigation is up to date, it takes about five minutes to give them a new clearance.
     
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    That's not the way it works. It's a continuing process of updating so someone has the whole picture.
     
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  13. Lee Atwater

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    The fact he is a paid commentator for MSNBC in no way diminishes the legitimacy of his observations. Don't you ever get tired of trying to score points by being forced to rely on character assassination to do it.............like Don?
     
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    That is exactly how it works. You get a expanded background investigation. That information stays on file with the FBI. If there is no problem, that same background investigation is good for a new clearance. Been there, done that.
    So, it would not have bothered you if we omitted that someone works for FOX.?

    By the way, would it be possible to have a civil conversation without the continual insults?
     
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    Please, you're missing the whole point of continuing to update these former intelligence chiefs. Been there done that.
     
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    Brennan said he had not used his clearance since leaving the government. Like I said, it is a five minute process to approve a new clearance, if everything is up to date.
     
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    Again, you're missing the point. The point is to have these former intelligence officers already briefed in case their expertise is requested by a sitting president, or CIA official, etc.
     
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  18. Lee Atwater

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    He knows he's missing the point. But he'll defend everything Don does because that's what cult members do. Even though he didn't vote for him (wink).
     
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    I see, so he's just playing games, ok.
     
  20. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup. Yesterday he was defending Don's parade on the grounds it was valuable for training after I pointed out it was a waste of money. Then this happened.............

    The Pentagon said in a Thursday statement that it would "explore opportunities" in 2019 for President Donald Trump's military parade that originally had been set for November of this year.

    That development came just hours after CNBC reported that the parade had been shaping up to cost $80 million more than initially estimated.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/pentagon-says-its-postponing-trumps-military-parade.html

    What do you think the chances of him admitting he was wrong are? About the same as Don testifying in front of Mueller.
     
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    How long do you think it would take to give access to someone who already has an up to date background investigation?
     
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    How long are you going to continue to forgive every misstep Trump commits?
     
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    No parade, no wall, no assistance from former intelligence chiefs.
     
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    He's the king of excuses, the duke of rationalization, and the master of spin. In the eyes of the cultists Don doesn't make mistakes, he's perfect. Haven't you heard?
     
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    Amazing how willing people are to bend over.
     
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