Shapiro Gets Into Tense Back-and-Forth With Pro-Choice Student

Really? Which Party wants to deny gays equal rights? Which Party wants to have fundy/evangy Christianity made the State religion? Which party wants to create Nuremburg Laws for Muslims?

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Why can't you give me a direct answer to a direct question?

1. Do you support the death penalty for those convicted of murder? Yes or No?

2. If abortion were made illegal, is a woman self-inducing an abortion, committing a murder? Yes or No?

3. If "Yes", would you support that woman being EXECUTED for murder if she self-induced an abortion under #2? Yes or No? If "No", why not?

4. If you support life in prison for those convicted of murder...would you support a woman who self-induced an abortion being locked up for life in prison? Yes or No?

 

Nice story. Too bad it's just another in a long list of "Celebrity says ...." chain-emails.

 

Thank you for admitting what everyone knows pro-lifers really think. This is why their agenda must be opposed at all costs.

 

They usually don't let that slip out directly....they say it more "obliquely"...

that basically they consider women to be.............."baby-making machines" or "baby-making animals"...that need to be controlled...by them, naturally.

 

Really, from banning Big Gulps to forcing people to buy health insurance, Democrats believe freedom of choice begins and ends in a woman's uterus.

Like I said before, both major parties are inconsistent in this regard. The only party that's consistent about these things is the Libertarian Party.

 

If Gary Johnson had won the GOP Nomination...2008, 2012...whatever....you and I would have voted for the same guy.

Not so much because I am a big libertarian....but just to drive a stake in the heart of Social Conservatism once and for all.

See: Barry Goldwater quote below-

 

Women don't need an excuse, all they need is the desire to end their pregnancy.

Women MUST have the right and say.

What if Anti-Choicers started with all the exceptions? : No abortion unless it's bi-racial.

No, abortions unless it 's a homosexual...

Afterall, most Anti-Choicers are righties....

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That wasn't what he asked.....

 

Wow! Your post was very thought provoking. Again Wow! Very good post!!

 

How many murders are executed? Less than 3%? Less than 1%. I'd give her 5 to 10 for manslaughter.

Benjamin Aaron "Ben" Shapiro (born January 15, 1984) is an American political commentator, nationally syndicated columnist, author, radio talk show host, and attorney.

A native of Los Angeles, California, Shapiro graduated from the University of California, Los Angeles and Harvard Law School. He has written six books, the first of which was 2004's Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth, written when he was 17 years old.

I don't think Shapiro is likely to dodge or deflect. You flatter yourself to think you could debate him without embarrassing your ancestors.

 

What if the woman wants the child, but the man does not? Is he allowed to force an abortion, after all, why should she have the only say, when he too will have to carry the financial burden for the next 19yrs. Maybe it was "just an accident" for him too. Why is the woman who decides to keep the child allowed to sue for child support, when he wanted an abortion?

 

i gave you an answer. it's not my fault you are too childish to understand, but i'll try to make it as easy for you as possible. as i have already stated, death is not always the answer. in fact, it seldom is. the best, most certain, solution would be sterilization with a period of punishment for the act itself. so why on earth would i call for the execution of those misguided souls who have taken the bait and turned away from their humanity. i gave examples of what i thought might be acceptable punishments, but i'm no legal authority and such things should be left up to the courts. we toss people into prison for the rest of their lives just so they can never commit their crimes again. why should we need to do such a thing if we made it impossible for them to commit those crimes. whether it could be called "murder" is up for interpretation. decades of indoctrination to make abortion itself socially acceptable could be interpreted as "legal excuse", kicking the crime out of the arena of "murder" and possibly into an entirely separate area unto itself.

sorry, but it's a complex issue and one that i can't give the sort of third grade answer you seem to require. it has taken decades to get us to the point where our humanity is so degraded that we see abortion in a positive light and it will take more than a few simplistic laws to untangle the mess we have made. one thing is obvious, simply going along with the status quo and ignoring the immorality of abortion does nothing to further the ethical growth of our society.

 

BS.

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

A fetus is an unborn human baby.

 

“Because they are not independent living human beings,” Shapiro fired back.

Then , Mr. Smart flip flops



“The baby is not part of your body,” Shapiro quipped""

Ya, a quip because if it isn't part of the woman's body she has even more reason to have it taken out.

IF it's an independent human being it should be able to be taken out and set on a shelf to grow.


IF it's an independent human being then it has no right to use another's body to sustain it's life.

Why does Shapiro want to give the fetus more rights than any other human?

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Key word: Unborn.

 

Are you familiar with what unborn means? It hasn't been born yet, so it is not a citizen, and has no constitutional protections. It is up to the mother to give birth, or have an abortion. Not up to you.

 

They do all seem to issues with women.......fear and hatred cause people to do odd things....

 

Are you familiar with what "in utero" means? Let me educate you. U.S. Public law 108-212 (2004) recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim. A child in utero is a member of the species Homo sapiens at any stage of development. Name of law is Unborn Victims of Violence Act.

 

It is an assertion. It is not a truth, simple or otherwise. If you choose to believe this, such is your right. You have no right to impose this belief on society at large.

 

That Shapiro would ask such a dumb question "when do these cells become a human being" shows how ignorant of main tenets of the debate the dude is.

Shapiro further illustrates his ignorance by inferring that an independent human being exits at all stages of pregnancy.

There is no exact time when a human can be shown to exist. Most experts grant that "significant brain activity" is a requirement - which occurs around 20-24 weeks.

The idea that a single human cell (at conception) is a human is silly and lifers have no good arguments to the contrary.

 

The UVVA has an exception for abortion.

 

LOL @ male feminists

 

Gosh, congress snuck another one past you. Unborn Victims of Violence Act 2004 Public Law 108-212, recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim.
In utero describes a member of Homo sapiens at ANY stage of development.

 

Define murder? In our current legal system there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree murders.

 

He rejected the premise of calling it murder. That was the term she used.