Shoigu- US Mercenaries Plan False Flag Chem. Attack In Donbas

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  1. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    Russia is spouting more lies ahead of their planned unprovoked aggression against Ukraine.


    Georgia was only defending themselves from Russia's unprovoked invasion of their country.


    Hardly terrorists. Those were more innocent people just trying to protect themselves from Russian aggression.


    If Putin wants to avoid war then he should stop invading other countries and stop murdering people.


    I've known that for a long time. I was pointing it out here years ago. Although the pro-Russia faction didn't seem to grasp what I was saying back then.

    If we end up stationing such missiles in northern Ukraine, that's just too bad for Russia. They should have thought of that before they invaded Ukraine.


    No such jealousy. No such wealth.


    What people hate is the way Russia keeps invading other countries and hurting innocent people.


    We are aware of the seriousness. And we are prepared. Our ICBMs stand ready to annihilate Russia at the drop of a hat.


    The only thing we tried to do in Syria is oppose the genocide that Assad is perpetrating against the Syrian people.

    Breaking up Russia might be just what the world needs to enjoy peace.


    He's not wrong there, and I doubt that he is wrong those other times that you refer to either.


    The ABMs won't be converted over to offensive missiles. We need them to stay as ABMs to protect against Iran.

    But... we could very well install more missiles in Poland and Romania, with the new missiles being offensive missiles aimed at Russia.

    That sounds like a win-win to me.


    Reality is not idiocy. The ABMs are there to protect Europe from Iran.
     
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    He actually has a very good point.


    You have that exactly backwards. It was Bashir al-Assad, with Russia's help, who armed Islamic State.

    It was the US who destroyed Islamic State.


    The US is not the one that is causing trouble. It is China and Russia that are causing trouble.


    Ukraine is not disrupting the peace. They are merely defending themselves from the people who have invaded them.


    Not taking NATO seriously is a good way for a rogue nation to get itself destroyed.


    Not nonsense at all. A W80 warhead is about a foot in diameter. If a missile cannot carry a warhead that wide, then it probably doesn't carry nukes.


    No refutation. The Russians would have been given inspections if they wanted them.
     
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    Nonsense. The US is not responsible for Russia aggressively invading country after country.


    There is something there. Russia keeps invading country after country.
     
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    I say the subject belongs in the fiction section.


    Actually, "Russia invading Ukraine, stealing their territory and killing their people" is exactly what is happening and has happened.


    It's hardly the US' fault that the Iranian clerics overthrew their democracy in 1954.


    Exposing the identity of all the hidden democracy activists in the world's dictatorships so that they could be purged from their governments was hardly a good thing for Manning to do.

    Weakening our efforts to stop terrorists before they strike was hardly a good thing for Snowden to do.
     
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    Then why do they keep invading everyone?


    Violent invasions of innocent countries is not the way to shed that image.


    Aggressive invasions of other countries are not defensive in nature.


    History or not, it is how China acts today.
     
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    Well, you chopped-off the majority of my post, but, to the one point you made above, I'll repeat one comment I made,

    "But consider -- all these many years later, what happened? Sure enough, N. Vietnam took over S. Vietnam, and now they're a trading partner of ours, and growing in importance in that capacity. Look at the label in your shirt... chances are it was made in Vietnam!"

    Today, in 2022, Vietnam is another one of these former super-duper, hard-line Marxist-Communist countries that is now practicing a 'neo-Capitalism' not so very different from that we've seen develop in China for the past thirty years. Thus, we do a lot of business with Vietnam today, and this probably would have happened anyway -- without our senseless, extravagant war there that bled-us-dry in more ways than one for over ten long years under both Johnson and Nixon!

    It's simple, really... what we've seen since World War II is that Capitalism is just a hell of a lot more beneficial to working-class populations of any country than Communism/Socialism is. But the supreme irony today is that while formerly hardcore Communist states are getting good at 'neo-Capitalism', we in the United States are wallowing deeper and deeper into 'neo-Socialism' under 'woke' economic 'philosophers' in the radical Democrat Party....
     

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