Short list of all the countries that influenced the election for Clinton

Quid pro quo suddenly became quid pro bono.

 

i guess we can file putins actions in the same category then and all is well.

 

Why would NWO stooges go against their own? They wouldn't, surely you see that. Also Mr t\Trump spoke well enough to get 304 EV's. Hope your January 20th is as enjoyable as mine and millions of others. Cheers.

 

Lol Obama and the left tried to start a war with Russia because the DNC and Podesta emails got leaked. I hope most of the people on this forum know a 12 year old could have done it no need for Putin or China or North Korea to get involved.

 

we should blockade the vatican and starve them out :3

 

I wonder if any of these people even know President Trump, I'll bet they get their views from the corrupt USA media. Besides by this time next week they'll be kissing his azz wanting more US aid. Also I have a French WW2 rifle for sale, never fired , dropped once.

 

The OP fails to see the difference between promoting one canidate over another and committing an act of terrorism in order to try and rig an election (hacking is terrorism). I guess guess terrorism is ok if he helps Republicans.

 

Scanning the posts on this thread, I would say Clinton supporters are fine with foreign influence as long as it favors her and against foreign influence that favored Trump. The reverse is true, Trump supporters seem fine with foreign influence that favored him, but against foreign influence that favored Clinton.

The substance of that influence or interference can be debated. Perhaps some is worse than others, but trying to influence an election regardless of the degree is still trying to influence an election. Does it bother me, not much if at all We try to influence other nations election ourselves. Such is life and politics.

 

It was really cute back in November when the Democrats expressed frustration about Trump and were in denial about the election. I enjoyed some schadenfruede.

But now (about 10 weeks later) it's getting really, really old and boring. It's not funny anymore. The Democrats won't be winning any elections with this sour grapes message.

 

Please, stop making yourself look silly. One, its Retarded Trump, two the media isn't out to get you personally. That's simply a paranoid notion of the right.

 

Condescension noted. When the media attacks President Trump they attack millions of Americans that voted him into office. For reference tune into your local station at 12:00 PM EST tomorrow. A joyous day in American, almost like a holiday.

 

Im just pointing out the hypocrysisy. We werent the first ones to complain about foriegn interference.

 

I will tell you what is tiring. The arrogance of the conservative downplaying legitimate concerns, not only over foreign interference (we don't care about the outcome of the election anymore, its more the logistics), but the clueless nuts Retarded Trump is putting in charge. Mrs. DeVos and Ben Carson both looked absolutely clueless at their hearings. Your boy is playing with nationalism, a bi-product of fascism. Aside from removing globalism, which is necessary for a country like the United States to operate off of. People like me who saw through Trump's blank, blank eyes know isolationism doesn't work. But now, obviously, we're going to be paying the price for your guys' venting.

Retarded Trump. I have a feeling I'm going to have to keep reminding people of that truth.

Please stop scapegoating the media, it is getting old. It's like Preibus saying "Be careful what you say" as if Retarded Trump is some dictator. The time in history when one is compelled to feel shameful, and embarrassed to call oneself a American has dawned upon us.

 

Putin and Netanyahu spoke out against Clinton, so there's that.

 

Yeah I'm sorry that the leftist in this country are calling themselves American too.
You guys stop with the race card I'll stop berating the corrupt disgusting partisan media. You guys won't so I won't have to bother. The MSM have been proven many times over they are biased and left leaning if not out right falling left.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=207
http://www.gallup.com/poll/149624/Majority-Continue-Distrust-Media-Perceive-Bias.aspx

 

No it's not. Speech comes in all different forms. Stating a preference is different from a demand. Likewise speaking out against him was well within the norm of global politics. That's allowable. Doing something that interferes with the election? That's very different.

 

Splitting hairs much, "foreign interference for my candidate is more kosher than yours"... Puhlease. LOL The entire world and the entire US and world media acted as an enormous, free uber-vicious Goebbels-style pro-Hillary PAC. If Putin did expose the true facts about the DNC/Hillary corruption and the collusion with media - he merely turned the American citizenry into better informed voters. Yeah, I know, the left hates that.

 

Socialist countries and officials come out against a capitalist? Say it ain't so.

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Endorsing one candidate while bad mouthing another is actively doing something about it

 

1. Knock off the Nazi comparision. It ruins political discourse.
2. No, there is a difference. One says they prefer one candidate over another. One tries to undermine democracy. When a country's rulers are given legitimacy through democracy, underlining delegitimatizes the government.

The average voter is already educated. They understand what happened and can see that whatever Clinton had going was bad, but not illegal. That also being said the average voter can probably tell you Trump managed to endorse sexual assault. It's not a surprise he lost the popular vote.

 

The "rumor" was in the leaked emails and a CNN (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) got fired for being caught red-handed

 

Not really. It endorses the system they have. If a world leader says they prefer one candidate over another, like Netanyahu did for Romney that's fine. He has said what he thinks is the best way to rule his state. He has a duty to say that really. But do something to actively undermine democracy by hacking into one of the political parties to get dirt on them? That's why watergate was so bad.

 

LOL at "no Nazi" stuff coming from a lib, really? Anyway, your post is self-contradictory, if the average voter is already educated, then certainly no amount of "Putin propaganda" would have affected their voting decisions. And the democracy does not get undermined by providing facts previously hidden from the voters, this strengthens democracy.

PS If your problem is with Putin - take it to him, I will support you 100%. But on November 8th the American people cast their votes based on the information available to them and this makes the outcome of the election absolutely fair and square.

 

Revealing truth does not undermine democracy, it enhances it

 

Not when it is obtained through illegal means. Then it actually does undermine it because one party is attempting to hold onto power by weakening other parties around them through illegal acts.

 

Really? I remember being pissed when Netanyahu was interfering in the 2012 elections and by then, I wasn't an Obama fan anymore. But still, I was and am an American Nationalist. So the idea of any foreign influence sickens me. According to a report way back early 2016, ALL candidates on both parties were compromised with foreign donors.

In terms of draining the swamp, Trump may or may not be the answer. But we as a country must recognize we have an entire Congress to drain out of. That can only be done by running, and by rejecting the two party scam on all of us.