Hey Grugore - Even a member of your own far right is a victim of far right censorship: CPAC speaker just publicly called out Trump’s infidelity. What happened next is disturbing http://washingtonpress.com/2018/02/...d-trumps-infidelity-happened-next-disturbing/ CPAC got weird, and not for the reasons you’d think. Yes there was the requisite guru-ification of Trump and the sorely outdated chants of “lock her up,” but that was all to be expected. It was conservative writer and a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center Mona Charen who defied expectation and actually took a surprisingly reasonable – and therefor unpopular – position on a panel called #UsToo: Left out by the Left. When asked what gets her “riled up” about modern feminism, Charen surprised (and then pissed off) the crowd with this hot take. “I’m actually gonna twist this around a bit and say that I’m disappointed in people on our side,” Charen said. “For being hypocrites about sexual harassers and abusers of women who are in our party. Who are sitting in the White House. Who brag about their extramarital affairs. Who brag about mistreating women. And because he happens to have an R after his name, we look the other way, we don’t complain.” Watch her comments here. Mona Charen bravely discusses the hypocrisy against women in the WH at #ustoo panel during @CPAC She specifically mentions the Roy Moore endorsement. Audience boos. pic.twitter.com/rrG5fmEAmq — Scout Add your name to millions demanding Congress take action on the President’s crimes. IMPEACH TRUMP & PENCE! When she launched into criticism of Republicans for supporting Roy Moore, a known pedophile, that’s when things started to break down. The crowd started yelling back at her things like “it’s a lie,” and, “it was a witch hunt.” Things devolved from there. Charen also criticized the conference for inviting the French right wing extremist Marion Le Pen to speak, calling the Le Pen name a disgrace and her grandfather a Nazi. That elicited angry jeers as well. Now we know what happens when a right wing thinker tries to introduce even the smallest inkling of critical thinking, reason, or logic into a discussion with the Republicans: they shout her down and force her to be escorted out by three security guards afterwards for her own safety. Not that Mona Charen is a paragon of liberal virtue or even reasonable thought when it comes to just about any of her positions. She’s published pieces for National Review that take a problematic stance on the rest of the #MeToo movement, a twisted point of view on pro-life arguments, and plenty more that would make any intelligent person with a pulse nauseous. But if Republicans won’t even listen to reason when it’s being pitched to them by one of their own, there’s no hope for enlightening them at all. There is just no question that nothing approaches the hate, treason, unreason, and censorship of the Nazis than does the actions of the far right in the USA. No surprise that so many members of that group spew so much hate and treason on this forum.
More than a little depressed that so many people think explicit calls for violence should be legal. I love free speech. Free speech doesn't cover that any more than your right to bear arms protects your right to threaten random strangers on the street with said firearm.
I voted "Yes, always" though what I consider hate speech is not the same as others. It is one of the many problems with mental pluralism.
hate speech such as "your people are stupid and suck!!!", should be legal. hate speech such as "your people should all be murdered!!!!", should be considered harrassment and incitement to violence, especially if said to a crowd.
I'm actually not seeing where and when so-called hate speech and actual threats are being separated. We have laws about threatening people and or groups. This is just another liberal attempt to protect their pets and punish their foes...
No. Thoughts are free and speaking what is on your mind is never a crime. Although it may appear as a cute idea to "illegalise pejoratives", it is a very dangerous thing to put into practice. When one group gets special status by the law, the next one will want to have it too. If I am allowed to make a theoretical exaggeration to prove my point, it would be that "hate speech" legislation would eventually result in a society where saying "I do not like the co,our blue" is seen as "hate speech" because it is offensive to those who have blue eyes.
I do not know. US Supreme Court allows Hate Speech. UK, much of Europe, Canada, Australia outlaw hate speech. Thousands of rude posters have been jailed in UK.
Pejoratives should be, and are, legal. Viable threats aren't. And it is depressing to see that so many poll respondents feel otherwise.
If you have very unpopular opinions in UK, you still have many places you can express them -- on the cell walls, cell door, ceiling.
Roy Moore a "known pedophile"?? What rubbish. First of all, what he was accused of is not pedophilia. Secondly, it is not "known" that he is guilty of the accusations.
Hate filled right wing pundit Alex Jones (King of hate speech) - Accused of Discrimination and Sexual Harassment by Former InfoWars Employees https://www.motherjones.com/media/2...xual-harassment-by-former-infowars-employees/ Two former staffers at InfoWars have accused founder and right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones of discrimination and sexual harassment, the Daily Mail reported on Wednesday. Jones allegedly bullied staffers, made anti-Semitic and racist comments, and groped one worker, according to two Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaints obtained by the publication. Rob Jacobson, a former video editor who worked for the site for 13 years, alleges his co-workers and managers called him “The Jewish Individual” and “The Resident Jew,” and that Jones regularly humiliated and belittled him. As the Mail reports, “The abuse got so bad that one member of staff photo shopped Jacobson’s face on to the image of an Orthodox Jew under the words ‘THE JEWISH INDIVIDUAL DEMANDS YOUR HOT TOPICS’ and printed it out for all to see.” Jacobson, who was eventually fired, is planning to sue Jones for discrimination, harassment, and unfair dismissal, in addition to his EEOC complaint. Meanwhile, Ashley Beckford, a former production assistant for InfoWars‘ parent company, Free Speech Systems, alleges Jones “often spent his time shirtless, and endlessly leering…at female employees and guests,” which created a “disgusting, hostile environment” that openly encouraged his staff to make inappropriate comments toward women. According to the EEOC statement from Beckford, who is African American, Jones made unwanted sexual advances and allegedly groped her while commenting, “Who wouldn’t want to have a black wife?” In a lengthy statement to the Daily Mail, Jones denied the claims, calling them “no reflection of reality” and “completely, totally false.” No surprise that a right winger is found to be engaged in hate, bigotry, and treason. When Jones said traitor Bush was involved in the 9/11 attack, the right wing hated him. Today because of his open bigotry and hate for Democrats, he is now loved by the un-American far right. Hate speech = a big part of right wing ideology.
Of course not. The first amendment is there to protect unpopular and offensive speech. Pleasant speech doesn't need protection.
