Should noisy kids be removed from public restaurants?

It will be better if there are restaurants and clubs that ban kids under the age of 30 from entering .

 

How about the 30 and above kids?

 

Those are already banned in most clubs , ears are getting really sensitive to loud noises and eyes lose ability to see in the dark not to speak about increased ability to detect (*)(*)(*)(*)ty drinks. Owners make it impossible for us to stand those places.

 

It should be up to the proprietor of the establishment. They should have the right to say "if you can't mind your children go to Chuck-E-Cheese."

And I'm saying this as a parent of 4.

 

LOL. Well I prefer pubs and bars over clubs any day personally.

 

Here is the thing, it depends on the place.

When my son was little he ate at fine dining restaurants with us because he enjoyed the food. Even at 2 he was a bit of a foodie. I remember when he was three and a half impressing a server over his desire to have capers when the server explained what they were and he was clear he knew and wanted them. We would bring him to places that were not designed for kids because he loved the industry. But when he was cranky he was gone. I would rather take home a doggie bag than ruin the meal for others when they are paying that much for a night out.

Once I was at a Magianno's, which is a high-midlevel chain. There was a lot of free-range childcare going on, including the opening of the patio door in the middle of winter. I mentioned something to the server who promptly ignored it. I, of course, made a point to let everyone know about my disappointment in their response, I have never eaten there since and once given a gift care to the place I gave it to a homeless man and told him to enjoy.

Kids are part of life. Kids are not brats for acting like kids as they are dragged hither and yon by parents doing things then brought to a place to eat where the food is not designed for them. A place with no entertainment or even decor that is interesting. I blame the parents who don't understand or care about the limits of their children and I blame a restaurant that doesn't take the complaints of the other customers into account.

 

The great thing is to eliminate children from public places altogether, and just die out. The way people without children rant on about 'control' suggests amnesia as well as poor observation. They, of course, stood to attention and remained silent for eighteen years, then began holding forth!

 

If I am the manager, I am more concerned about the majority patrons than offending crap parents by telling them to reign in their kids or find some other place to eat.

 

It's not the kids, it's the parents who let the kids scream and act out and just figure everyone else in the restaurant should bend over and take it.

Let's not even get into kids on planes...you can't walk out of an airplane.

 

When mine got cranky or noisy .. which was rare.. I just took them for a walk.... or out to the car..

 

Should be totally up to restaurant owner.

 

My parents didn't take us to restaurants until we were old enough to understand how to behave properly. If we violated the parents standards of contact we were taken out to the car where we remained until the rest of the family had finished eating. And when we got home we didn't get food to make up for missing dinner. Needless to say we did not misbehave more than once.

Of course having a child sit in a car by himself would now be considered child abuse.

 

I hate to sound like an old biddy (verry old.....born after fire, but before the wheel.....), but 'back in my day' such behavior in public would be unheard of. There no longer are any manners, 'politesse', consideration, etiquette in contemporary society. I do not blame the kids, whose shrill shrieks can break crystal and burst eardrums, for they have not been taught how to behave properly in public. I blame the parents, who are oblivious to any proper interaction with anyone else within earshot. What else can one expect of a generation that has become socially alienated through the so-called 'social media'. Totally oxymoronic. Notice any group of people, supposedly on a social outing together, each in his/her own little figurative isolation chamber, glazed eyes glued to that little hypnotic phone screen, thumbs frantically clicking away at the next mindless, superficial so-called thought.

We learned in anthropology that homo sapiens rose to the top of the animal kingdom pyramid because of our opposable thumbs. If they (the thumbs) continue to be used for naught but inane, superficial ramblings (but limited to 140 characters, how far can one ramble??!!), they will surely regress to a vestigial state, as useful to our anatomy as the appendix. And then we will assuredly fall to the bottom of the pyramid, lower than the slugs and cockroaches.

It is the parents who should be cited, fined, banned from any public gathering places until they have passed tests and are licensed in public etiquette. Obviously this will also preclude the presence of their children who are collateral damage.

 

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Love it! ...and spot on.

 

I'll agree with that. Consider it a lesson to parent and child alike.

 

Now that I'm retired and have raised a family, done the grandkid thing, I sometimes figure noisy kids should be made a menu choice.

 

Working at McDonald's would sure be a lot more peaceful!

Also I would add, when the child vomits it should be the parents who have to mop it up and not the staff.

 

Yes, boot the kids out but the parents should be allowed to stay. They need a break from those brats too!

Also throw out the cell phonies.

 

I have a better idea. The restaurant should serve bratwurst with real brat. Everything cooked but the squeal.

 

I think it really depends on the restaurant. I wouldn't want to ban them outright, nor would I kick out a four year old for doing normal four-year-old kinds of things (say talking a bit louder than normal), but you can't let a kid bother everyone else. On the other hand, I if we don't want kids to ever make noise or get excited, that's not how young kids are. a 4-5 year old can't sit still and do nothing but eat and talk for 3 hours. Ideally, I think there should be something for the kids to do while they wait either before the food is served or while waiting for the check. Bring along a coloring book or something, maybe a puzzle or something, and honestly I think a smart restaurant manager might keep a few on hand to occupy a young diner.

Banning a kid from ever making noise essentially means banning kids. How do you teach a kid how to behave in public if he's not allowed in public? How does he learn not to run around if he's never there?

 

I voted no because kids behave differently on different days for different reasons. The child may be having problems at school the parents are unaware of, he/she may be sick and it hasn't been realized yet...etc. And it's a known fact that more than one child at a table results in a louder degree of noise...heck more adults at one table results in a louder noise level. IF you want to stop kids from frequenting restaurants...where will you draw the line? Two years and over ok? Six years? Teenagers? LOL EVER hear a bunch of teenage girls at a restaurant after a movie? You want annoying. And you have to remember that all those kids who are not going to be involved in participating in the restaurant scene as a child...will someday be an "adult" with no idea of how to act in a restaurant. So you'll have 30 year olds (ok a bit of an exaggeration but...) who go to a restaurant and turn into kids/teenagers! And when does one cease being a kid? When kids can stay on their parents medical insurance till the age of 26 would that child/adult still be considered a "kid"? What about adult kids still living with their parents? To those parents they are still kids. I think we start walking a slippery slope when we start denying our children rights. How long before it would expand to...I'm not renting to people with kids, or I'm not letting kids into "my" hotel etc. And then (LOL) we would have to stop adults from attending Disneyworld.

Also one person's idea of NOISE and ill mannered is completely different from anothers. My grandparents would be shocked at the things kids do today but...we, for the most part, deal with it and consider it mostly nothing. So if you're sitting at a restaurant with your 3 children and they get a little bit loud but nothing you consider out of control and the maître de or whatever comes over and asks you to leave because the elderly couple at the table next door was complaining because your children were "unruly"...how would you feel?

Kids need to be social. However, parents also need to know when kids have stepped over the line and do something about it. Unfortunately in this day and age of permissiveness...most parents won't even admit their kids are causing problems much less do something about it.

 

OMG. LOL. This reminds me of my brother when once asked how he liked children he replied with a straight face "BarbeQued". By the way I'm a grandmother and one of the "old" bunch too. My daughter NEVER misbehaved in a restaurant cause she knew if I gave her "THE LOOK" and she didn't straighten up her little self was going out to the car and we were going home! Now my two grandsons (ages: 8, 6) are perfectly behaved when they go places. Heck they go to the hospital where their mom is a nurse and there's no problems. They go to CNN where their dad works an there's no problems whatsoever. But then they knew from the time they were toddlers what the rules are out in public and they follow them...because they have to for the main reason but also because they like hearing the compliments about what well behaved little boys they are. Anyway as you can tell, their Grandma is sure proud of them! LOL