Should the 2nd Amendment be upheld to the letter?

Here is a conservative gun nut, in love with Barbara Bush & wants to work in the Pentagon. Cons will tell you everybody has a right to have guns, so I guess they mean this innocent man here as well.

On Thursday, the man's mother called police to report she had found a threatening note in the home she shares with her son and that a rifle was also missing.


NEW YORK - A New York man sitting in a car that had a loaded rifle, machete and a container of gasoline was charged on Friday with threatening to kill George W. Bush after professing a romantic interest in one of the twin daughters of the former president, prosecutors said.

Benjamin Smith, 44, of Pittsford in upstate New York was arrested in Manhattan by the U.S. Secret Service, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court.

"Bush will get his," Smith screamed as he was taken into custody, according to the complaint.

Smith's defense lawyer, Peggy Cross-Goldenberg, said the note and Smith's outbursts did not constitute a "true threat."

The judge also conceded it was "unclear" a jury would find Smith guilty.
http://news.msn.com/us/armed-man-arrested-for-threatening-ex-president-bush

 

*rolls eyes*

The guy committed a crime - that shows nothing inherently wrong with the 2nd. Some people yell fire in a theater - should we then stop respecting 1st rights?

Or maybe we just do what we've done, and respect law abiding citizens rights and punish those who break the law.

 

What was the crime.

 

Yes, that's correct - he has a right to guns.

 

If you really need that pointed out to you, you should probably learn the elementary legal stuff before moving on to clothe constitution.

 

Guess there was no crime.

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That is what I thought as well.

 

I don't think that's a bad thing - people should be free to buy full-auto machine pistols from some guy in a hoody - no serial numbers, no registration, no licenses, no background checks, no ID, regardless of age, mental illness, or whether or not you're a felon.

 

Well now that the found the note and found him with the loaded rifle, machete and a container of gasoline and shouting Bush will get his, you can bet he will be charged and convicted of threatening the President and his right to own guns will be taken away. So what's your problem? You want to disarm everyone because of him? Sorry.

 

My right to my gun will be enforced by me, with my gun, if necessary. The good intentions of gun control advocates not withstanding,
I'd shoot even the most sincere of them if they came for my gun.

No one has the right to impose their best intentions for others upon them by force. "Gun control' falls squarely into the best-intentions-for-others category.

 

Along with every other Amendment.
Are you saying everyone who threatens someone should not own a gun? Or every criminal, or accused criminal?

 

Take away guns, no. I want him to keep his guns, shall not be infringed means what it says. You can take his gas can. And he didn't say anything you wouldn't say everyday of the year about Obama. Should we lock your ass up and take your guns? lol Get a grip.

 

Big tough guy when you have a gun in your hands, huh?

You remind me of a guy from a few years ago in Idaho. A guy named Claude Dallas. Supposedly, another tough, independent, don't touch my guns kinda guy. Killed two Fish and Game officers when they came to his camp to investigate illegal trapping. Trapping, BTW, is now a Constitutional right in Idaho. But that's another laughable story.

He, with assistance from locals, hid one body in the vast SW Idaho deserts and disappeared with the vow that he would NEVER be captured alive. (In case you missed it, that's the tough guy with a gun part that you should recognize). He was gone for several years and finally showed up again. The police closed in on him in a trailer (just another trailer rat) and he took one shot in his heel. Then, "the I won't be taken alive guy", cried like the baby he truly was and gave it up.

So, to me, you're "I'd shoot even the most sincere..." bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is nothing more than a Rambo-wannabe, Claude Dallas "tough guy with a gun" mentality. I see it all the time in Idaho. You live with fear and by fear.

 

No, I said should the 2nd be upheld to the letter. I say it should, I say all gun laws are unconstitutional and should be repealed.

 

Now you are type of person these cons feel shouldn't have guns, you make a threat & you own a gun.

 

We are on the same page there

 

I wish all legislatures were as well.

 

I agree 100%, I even support every homosexuals right to keep and bear arms as they get married!

 

Here's a better question for people adhering to a literal by-the-letter interpretation of the 2nd Amendment:

Does the government have the power to restrict your right to bear arms anywhere?

 

Me too my friend, me too

 

I've been aquited twice for charges brought against me for defending myself with deadly results. This is not, for me, an academic exercise.
I may be a has been, but I'm no wannabe.

 

You validate my point about living in fear and by fear. Perhaps the third time will be a charm and you'll find something different. What kind of person would continue to place themselves in positions that they would need to shoot anyone, especially more than once? Oh that's right. Some guy that says he has no problem not following laws like paying taxes, etc.

Just be thankful that I never will have the opportunity to be on one of your juries, although, I'm sure in your own mind, you have no peers.

 

I sincerely hope that you never face the violence I've had to contend with over my brief fifty years; but if you do, I hope that you protect yourself as effectively as I have been able to. I come from one of the most violent cities in the US, Youngstown, Ohio. I grew up one of thirteen white children in an all black neighborhood. I survived. I got out of their and raised seven children of our own.

I am much less likely than are you to impose force upon others; however, I will defend mutual volition to the death.

 

Don't forget to pay those taxes you disdain so much. They paid for those jurors that kept your ass out of jail.

 

How much do you want to bet that Mr. Smith has a history of mental illness? He is 44 years old, and living with his mother. He is in love with someone that he has never met, and thinks that he can win her by killing her father. This is not about a right to bear arms. It is about the shoddy mental health laws in this country. How many have to die at the hands of the mentally ill before Liberals will allow them to be locked up?

 

Take away the handguns and let them keep their rifles. That way the 2nd Amendment is protected.