Should there be room in government policy for empathy and compassion?

Im not sure what you mean by this?

 

to receive something (public assistance) just because you're presence upon us soil, very similar to giving children a participation trophy in sports, rather than awarding the winner with a trophy

 

So this was just your round about way of saying we should eliminate social saftey nets entirely?

 

nothing 'round about' it... freebies are never a good thing, doing so curtails respect & self reliance, one needs to earn their existence here, not be handed it at other's expense. those that advocate freebies, aka safety nets, would never except supporting them in their own homes but they expect everyone else to do so... it breeds this mental-ality: "hey, all i gotta do is place one foot on us soil and then they are forced to feed me, clothe me, house me & give me free medical care" as well as, "hey, i don't have to work, all i gotta do is sign up for public assistance and pop out another baby to get more monies" it breeds generations of lame, unproductive individuals... and yes, the system is abused, especially in the big cities (aka sanctuaries) ...

it's time to end all 'participation trophies' for those folks & concentrate on those that truly need it, such as our elderly & sick, because they have been pushed aside by the liberals whom would rather take care of illegals & criminals...

 

Gotcha. So, let the poor die, like they used to before social saftey nets. Gotcha. Very compassionate.

 

it's obvious that you've neglected, either by design or ignorance, to see the full context of my post and that you've cherry picked a word or two to dwell upon... eof

 

The young and able-bodied should have to make their own way, however.

And if they decide to steal or do violence that harms law-abiding society, lock them the hell up.

 

everyone can fall on hard times... mentally or physically

and yes, be they rich or poor, if they steal or break the law... lock them up... money laundering and tax evasion is no exception

 

There should be no fed hotels. All prisons should be modeled on Angola, probably the best prison in the USA. White collar criminals should not receive any better than violent criminals, and probably deserve worse. They hurt law-abiding society just as much, sometimes more.

 

Love and I mean love how hypocrisy some people can be as they seems not to have a problem with the top one percent or even less of the population getting tax bills and other bills written that placed billions in their pocket but cry real tears of pain if the bottom one half of a percent get any manner of help from our government.

You wish a few hundreds of millions of dollars tax breaks and or free public land in building a sport area no problem once your hired lobbyists to write in the break along with paying the bribes.

But if you wish a few thousands of dollars for such things as college tuition or child care forget it you damn free loader.

 

this is what we are supposed to be doing with our Government: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

notice that it doesn't say, "We the illegal People of the United States"

 

I disagree. If the one paying the fee is also a benefactor of the service provided, then it is compassionate. Having more people paying reduces the cost for everyone, so how's that a negative? If you pay less but get better service, then that's a positive for you and everyone involved. You're arguing that you're better off, or you have more rights if yu are free to choose the more expensive, lesser service option. That's nuts.

 

1) Compassion and empathy are subjective and can be manipulated. Compassionate people do not try to become President or Senator or Governor. People who want power seek out power and want those offices. They will use compassion as a tool to accumulate power - that's what has happened in the USA.

2) Compassion and empathy are subjective. Your idea of compassion can be imposed through the strong arm of the govt on other people. Look at abortion, gun control/gun rights, religion, immigration.

"Compassion" has no place in govt

 

Nor does it say provide welfare

 

Gee, why is it that those greedy rich pay almost all the federal taxes? While 46% pay nothing at all. Shouldn't you be mad at those who don't pay.

 

Because they have all the money. Wealth has been concentrated since the Reagan trickle down revolution at an absurd rate, to the already wealthy, and shrinking the middle class more and more. Since they have all the wealth, as a direct result of the voodoo economics practices by the right, they are going to pay all the taxes

http://apps.urban.org/features/wealth-inequality-charts/img/WealthPercentiles.jpg

 

Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of our Founding Fathers knows they sought to provide for the common welfare, not for the corporate welfare like Reaganite Republicans do.

 

Get a clue. 65% of Americans own their own home. There are millions of self made millionaires in the US. Hell even a idiot like Trump can be a self made billionaire.

 

Lol, no. The bank owns their home.

Trump was handed hundreds of millions of dollars by his father. He isn’t a self made anything.


None of this has any relevance to anything I posted though. The wealth gap has grown by orders of magnitude since Reagan’s trickle down revolution. The middle class is almost entirely destroyed, while more of the nations wealth is concentrated to the already wealthy. So, since they have all the money, at the expense of the middle and lower class, they will be paying the lions share of taxes.

 

More BS from a TDS suffer. Here is what Fact Check says about Trump's inheritance.
"Trump also benefited from three trusts that had been set up for family members. In 1976, Fred Trump set up eight $1 million trusts, one each for his five children and three grandchildren, according to a casino document. (That today would be worth about $4 million in inflation-adjusted dollars.) The casino document lists several other loans from Trump’s father to his son, including a $7.5 million loan with at least a 12-percent interest rate that was still outstanding in 1981."

But it makes no difference, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Pete Kewit all self made billionaires. If you are not wealthy, it is no ones fault but your own. If you lack the drive, or intelligence to accumulate money that is on you. Opportunity is there for everyone.

No matter how you spin it. The rich pay way more than their share of the taxes. They also create most of the jobs. When you see a rich person on the street, you should say thank you.

The middle class is being destroyed by three things. 1. The loss of manufacturing jobs due to decades of democrat passed legislation. The good news is Trump is reversing this. 2. Millions of illegal aliens have flooded the unskilled and semi-skilled markets driving wages to poverty levels. Trump is trying to control this as well. 3. Taxes, when you pay half what you make into taxes it is hard to get ahead. And hey, Trump is working on that too.

Wake up, Trump wants everything you do. You should be his biggest supporter.

 

Sorry, I gave you a chart of the wealth distribution over the last 30 years. I know you righties are allergic to facts, but that doesn’t change reality.


And as I pointed out, trump got way more than a million dollar loan from his father. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...ather-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html

 

If it's the job of government to force others to conform to your subjective morals and values, then why isn't it the job of government to force you to conform to the morals and values of others?

 

So what, even if he got 60 mil, he turned it into billions. That is like getting 60 thousand and turning it into millions. In case you want to know a billion is 1,000 million. Beyond that how many times have you posted how stupid he is. Gee, if a meat head like Trump can make that kind of money a super brain like you should be a zillionaire. In case you don't know the difference a loan is not an inheritance.

By the way, if you knew how to read the meaning behind those graphs, you would realize if you bring in 10s of millions of poor people, your poor to rich ratio is going to climb. No rocket science here, just common sense. That is a fact for you.

 

How many times did he go bankrupt again? Lol

I’m sorry that the data shatters your detachment from reality and ideology, but that doesn’t make it go away.