Should white supremacists have guns?

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  1. Well Bonded

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    What equally irrational is a recent Rasmussen poll that indicated almost 60% of Americans believe the U.S. needs stronger gun laws, yet the same poll indicated the same people believe that additional gun laws will do nothing to prevent mass shootings.

    So what it comes down to is pass more ineffective so called solutions making people feel better because they did something that only effects the law abiding.
     
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    Criminals can buy machine guns anywhere in the world if they want them.
    Even in nations with Gun Bans.

    "In the course of a few days last summer, gun-toting
    men burst into a court and freed two defendants; a
    shooting outside a London nightclub left five women
    and three men wounded; and two men were
    machine-gunned to death in a residential
    neighbourhood of north London. On New Year's Day,
    2002, a 19-year-old girl walking on a main street in east London was shot in the
    head by a thief after her mobile phone.” FINANCIAL TIMES, Trigger unhappy, BY Joyce Lee Malcolm, Jun 21, 2002.
     
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    They just want to 'do something!!!!!' and FEEEEEEEEEL better. Nevermind that in doing so they'll have actually made themselves LESS safe.
    Like a child hiding under a security blanket: Works great on imaginary monsters, doesn't do **** against human monsters and actually both points you out and blinds you to their presence.
     
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    Back when Dade County was the cocaine capitol of the U.S. a lot of drug dealers where found dead with what was known as a zipper, the MAC-10 was very a popular firearm used by the Cocaine Cowboys and because of it's recoil it would rise up and to the left leaving a body looking like someone installed a zipper in it.

    None of the thousands of MAC-10 that where used and later confiscated where bought in the U.S. they came North along with the shipments of cocaine.

    If somebody wants a machine gun they can be bought on the streets, just not legally and the inherent inaccuracy of full auto in untrained hands and the rapid burn through of ammo makes a machine gun a poor choice for committing a mass murder.
     
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    I agree that law abiding citizens should be able to own semi automatic rifles and hand guns and I never suggested that they should be disarmed. However these Peckerwood, AB types are continually recruiting new members who are not yet convicted felons. Sometimes their first felony is mass murder like some of our recent events. Some preventative measures should be taken by law enforcement to keep these mentally deranged racists from killing innocents.
     
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    Like the Black Panthers, Skin Heads, Proud Boys, Peckerwoods, Aryan Brotherhood.....
     
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    Quite true, but the police commonly will claim they cannot do anything until some commits the crime which is nonsense, simply making a threat is a crime in of itself.

    What I cannot understand why law enforcement agencies, especially those with large budgets, don't monitor social media more closely, our Sheriff's department is small and underfunded but this year alone because of social media monitoring they have arrested two teen agers who posted threats of shooting up a school, the first case was determined to be BS'ing, but the teen a juvi did a few months of time for making the threat, the second one turned up a stolen firearm and hand draws plans of a local middle school, that kid who just turned 18 in January is upstate serving 15 years and a stolen gun is off the streets.
     
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    Anyone who disagrees with you or you just don't like is probably a terrorist, right? How about we continue with freedom and due process? Where was all this good Democrat thinking when you folks were inventing the Klan?
     
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    And opens the door for the Demoncrats and their ilk a back door to confiscate law abiding peoples firearms without due process.

    But hey, if the Demoncrats cannot get their way through due process, what the heck bypass it and achieve the goal anyhow, they don't care if it is legal or a violation of the Constitution, just get the gun banning job done.
     
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    And those measures would be?
     
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    That is definitely the $64,000 question. Hopefully our Federal, State and Local lawmakers and law enforcement officials are working on it.
     
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    With an apparent war being waged against whites individuals as a whole, and an anti-white mentality taking hold in the united states, exactly what is a white supremacist anymore? How is one defined in coherent terms in the current environment? The term is so poorly defined, it can easily be applied to anyone who believes whites are equal and should be treated equal, or who claims only those that are qualified for a particular position should hold the position.
     
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    If one appears to pay attention to the labels being applied by the Left, such as White Supremacist or racist, the labels are being weaponized and Applied those that oppose Leftist collectivism ideologies and policy dreams in an ironic twist on the McCarthyism of the 50’s. It’s a means of trying to intimidate and vilify opposition.
    Funny, though, when applied to those that don’t consider themselves White Supremacists or racists, it doesn't drive conformity to Leftist ideologies except to reinforce the faithful, but increases opposition and resistance... when applied to those in political opposition that reject White Supremacy and racism who basically respond with a big F*** Y*** and refuse to be intimidated by being told they have the cooties.
     
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    Ah let the maid do it paired with DO SOMETHINGGGGGG!!!
    A dangerous philosophy
     
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    "NEWTON, N.J. — New Jersey investigators were looking into a routine complaint from a woman who said her ex-boyfriend was harassing her when they uncovered something far more dire: The 25-year-old man had stockpiled weapons and far-right propaganda and had talked about shooting up a hospital.

    "Two months later, New Jersey State Police responding to a crash in the same county discovered illegal assault weapons in the back seat of a van. Later, they found 17 more firearms, a grenade launcher and neo-Nazi paraphernalia in the driver’s home....

    "White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed more people than any other category of domestic extremist in the past 18 years."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/...joseph-rubino-essex-nj-white-supremacist.html

    Shouldn't such people be disarmed?
     
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    If an individual is able to acquire a grenade launcher in the united states, and it is not one of the few registered examples known by the ATF, then there is a much bigger problem going on in need of address than legal firearms ownership.

    If the grenade launcher was legally acquired, in compliance with all state and federal laws relating to such devices, then the background check by the ATF was quite extensive and they found absolutely no reason why the individual in question should not be able to own it.

    If the grenade launched was illegally acquired, and was not registered with the ATF but rather came from outside the united states, it is another matter entirely.
     
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    What would be the definition of a "domestic extremist"?
     
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    Should young black men have guns?
     
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    Wrong!! Everyone should have the right to pen AND carry a firearm until due process takes that right away because of something they did. Remember the idiotic city of San Francisco officially labeled the NRA a terrorist organization. Should all the NRA members have their unalienable rights tsken away. Because of the mentally deranged leaders of San Fran think?
     
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    No!
     
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    yes and being a member of a terrorist group should be reasoned to take away a persons guns

    if the nra started doing terroristic things, then yes, have not seen anything to declare them a terrorist group though
     
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    I am not White. Of course White Supremacists should not have guns.

    People with Mental Disability must not have guns -- their lives matter.

    Sadly as long as guns are available, USA will keep losing 30,000 to 40,000 people a year to gun violence and self-harm.
     
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    Sadly too many people in USA do not value the lives of people.
     
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    Well then the Democratic law makers had better stop making more gun laws that make resist to the government the only patriotic choice to make..
     

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