Simple question....

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hello and good day.
    I have no higher education.
    I have accomplished absolutely nothing worthy of mention.
    I have no money, no home, no job.
    I never voted because I knew I wasn't smart enough to make the right choice.
    If there was a recycling center for worthless humans, I would gladly drag myself in.
    My mother tried to abort me by jumping out of a moving vehicle before I was born.
    I appreciate her effort. She did the best she could.
    I realize that I am a burden to this country, this society, or whatever the proper term is.
    But until the powers that be decide to create a way to get rid of me and others like me,
    what do you expect us to do? If we could just disappear, we would. At least I would.

    Can someone please explain to me how it makes sense to be against abortion and at the same time
    be against helping people who obviously, whether you chose to believe it or not, can't help themselves.
    Please explain why you want more people born into the world and then despise their very existence.

    I have a feeling that my question may be viewed by the Conservative as criticism.

    But I have not chosen one party over another. I am only asking what seems to be a simple question
    to everyone but me.

    Thank you for your time.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Join the democrats and be at home.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Other than being afflicted with self-pity, why are you feeling so helpless and in need of sitting on mommy's lap?
     
  4. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Playing a little Devil's advocate here (if only so you get a straight answer);

    It could be suggested that almost everybody is capable of helping themselves and the fundamental problems are laziness, high expectations and a lack of self-reliance.

    I don't think the people you're talking about especially want more people born, certainly not anyone they might despise, they just don't want that reduction to be made via abortion.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    McDonalds and others are always hiring.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You need to check into a hospital. You're not well.
     
  7. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I get what you are saying/asking. (Great points.)

    And all some here are going to do is hurl weaponized-conservatism at you.
     
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    I agree and they have.
     
  9. JPRD

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    An unborn child may or may not turn out to be a decent, law-abiding, productive, and worthwhile human being. Unborn children should be given the chance to live. Once a child is born, raised in a familty (or not), educated (or indoctrinated), and learned (or not learned) from experience, it will become evident whether he/she is worth much. It's at this point in a person's life when a decision to abort/not-abort should be considered. We could call such action "VERY Late-Term Abortion"? :eekeyes:
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not such a bad idea JPRD. It's a start anyway. With the way population is increasing, something needs to be done soon.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "I don't think the people you're talking about especially want more people born, certainly not anyone they might despise, they just don't want that reduction to be made via abortion. "

    Thank you Joe. That seems to make sense in the fact that the same people that are against abortion seem to have no problem at all with war
    and the collateral damage of bombing innocent women and children.
    So in the Conservative mind, why is child death by war acceptable over abortion?
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    So why does the right want to cut spending to help that child be raised by a family, get an education and learn from the "right" experience? Is the right more interested in aborting that child later in life because they would not help that child? Seems very strange to me.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Other than being afflicted with self-pity, why are you feeling so helpless and in need of sitting on mommy's lap?"

    I really don't mind your assumptions Mr. river. I would rather you had put more thought into answering the question.
    But thank you for your time.
     
  14. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "You need to check into a hospital. You're not well. "

    LOL Definitely! As soon as I get healthcare!

    But you don't think my question is logical??
     
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    I don't buy a speck of what you are trying to sell. If you really wanted to disappear there are a million ways to do that.

    If you want to argue for abortion, be proactive and give your mother the gift she couldn't give herself.

    Sad way to get attention.
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Obviously you don't understand his point and want only to avoid the topic he has brought up.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Libbers demand evidence from God and have faith in government. For conservatives, the reverse."

    I have observed that few "Libbers" believe in God enough to demand evidence from Him. And I don't hear "Libbers" touting much faith in Government.
    I agree God does seem to be an important issue with Conservatives, but they tend to apply the Ten Commandments selectively and seldom to themselves. Like most of us
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I totally agree! Perhaps a picture of me as a clown is a better way to get attention.
    Either way, thanks for the comment.

    So far my simple question seems to have provoked anger in some.

    Since anger is known to be generated by fear,
    can you please tell me what I said that frightened you?
     
  19. FearandLoathing

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    Well, not likely as fast food and big box stores have barriers built in to the hiring process designed to block out guys like him.

    My last business created jobs for guys like him, entry level work with a good starting salary and incentives. We found we had to spread it around as most of people we dealt with could not sustain heavy work eight hours a day over the long haul. There were some mistakes, we got taken a few times, disappointed more, but most of the time we got a good employee who found stable housing and earned good wages, a resume and some of them full time jobs.

    Handing them money is relegating them to financial slavery.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for the explanation sir.
    I have applied persistently to the Walmarts and their clones with no results.
    I agree. Money should not be handed over unless it is earned.
    I would gladly take part in some organization, whether Government or privately funded, like FDR's CCC camps.
    I have had the privilege of seeing some of the work those men did all over the country.
    Truly amazing. But I doubt that could happen in these times. The big construction outfits wouldn't allow it.
     
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    I know a lying troll when I see one. The topic is worthy of discussion if someone decides to address it without childish histrionics.
     
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    Those who are anti-abortion are control freaks.
    I wonder how many pro-choice folks and those who complain about welfare payments to support the unwanted babies are anti-mandatory sterilization.
    Mandatory sterilization of all who are on long term welfare would go a long way to easing the problem.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see nothing wrong with sterilization. I was voluntarily sterilized 35 years ago.
    Quite painless actually.
     
  24. JPRD

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    Conservatives, at least this conservative, are not against spending tax dollars on "education". Additionally, I do not oppose spending some tax dollars on "family assistance". What virtually ALL conservatives oppose is the despicable MISMANAGEMENT of our hard-earned taxes! Leftwing control of "education" programs has left our children virtually illiterate, and incapable of common-sense and personal responsibility. The leftwings efforts to destroy every remnant of Judeo-Christian morality is destroying families, and leading to the upbringing of stupid, self-centered, irresponsible human beings who are incapable of anything but self-centered demands for "free stuff"! Today's children should be required to take the tests that their grandparents great-grandparents had to take in the schools of the 1940's, 50's, and 60's. They'd find that less than 20% of today's students could get a passing grade. We're spending MUCH more money (in adjusted dollars) for education, welfare, healthcare, and family welfare today than in the 1940s-60s, and getting much WORSE results. Unless and until we begin treating our children AS children, and not as all-knowing little urchens who deserve prosperity handed to them for nothing, our nation is doomed..... regardless of how much money we spend hoping for better results!
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well said. But If I am lying. What exactly do think I am lying about?
    And why are you wasting your valuable time here?
    Not that I haven't enjoyed your company.
     

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