"Skeptics," Science, Spirituality and Religion

Spiritual "experience" gives contradicting, mutually exclusive, unreliable results to billions of people worldwide.

Why would you put any trust into "evidence" that is that inconsistent?

 

What if you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior but Thor is actually the one true God?

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Do you believe in a god?

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Do you have any evidence for a non-material world?

 

You claim God does this: "Of course, being the sociopath God is he refused to take responsibility and blamed "Satan." Since God created Satan God could, of course, destroy Satan but he doesn't. Why not?

Because God, in addition to being a murdering sociopath is a psychopathic sadist who get off on the suffering of those he considers lesser beings. Sort of like the serial murderer who tortured puppies as a kid.

Any wonder why I don't want your god in my schools?"

Even though He doesn't, your claim requires His existence.

 

No, it requires YOU believe in his existence and in turn attempt to force your belief on me.

You see, if the bible is true, and god does exist the all I say of him is true.

If, on the other hand, the Bible is fantasy masquerading as fact then the danger lies in your belief and your insistence that others believe as you.

 

When did I try to push my faith on you?

 

I'm a theist, but not a closed minded one. First of all I agree with mathematical data that supports evolution. Where did the single cell come from? Well we don't really know. Also it appears to me that DNA has implied intelligent design meaning that we humans aren't a freak of nature.

I will only debate what I feel I can present a reasonable argument for, and I can not support a young earth, created in seven days, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to throw the baby out with the bath water.

One of the things that redirected my thinking was the circumstantial evidence brought by near death experiences, and yes that is an entirely different debate but I have come to the conclusion that the dying brain theory can't be supported, nor can we prove these testimonies beyond a reasonable doubt.

One thing I have gained from Christianity and the near death stories is the the greatest attribute a person can have is love of themselves and their fellow man, and for that reason among others I have embraced Christianity. It isn't that I believe Christianity has all the answers, because it certainly doesn't, but what it teaches in it's purest form is love and respect of all people.

The extreme right wing to me are out of touch with reality, just as I feel the extreme left wing thinking is. So please don't use examples of right wing idiots that have ridiculous beliefs and many times do stupid things. They do not represent the core of Christian belief.

 

Well....I will tell you if I ever meet this...GOD.

AA

 

This guy is hilarious!

'Who? Little me?

 

Mel Brooks....."I give you these 15.....(one of the 3 tablets Mel holds falls on the ground and breaks)....SMASH!!.....TEN!! TEN COMMANDMENTS!!

AA

 

Its a simple question to answer. Do you, right now, believe in a god?

 

Define GOD?

If your definition is the same as what is advertised in any modern human religion then no.

AA

 

Is there a definition of God that you personally define that you believe in?

If that is also a no, then you are an atheist.

 

I am not an atheist.

I am Agnostic as I am open to anything that can be at the very least detected and observed as anyone who follows the scientific method worth their salt should be.

There are many definitions of what is GOD.

There is the Gaia Principle.....there is Enlightenment....etc.

AA

 

But do you believe in any of those? Do you personally call any of those definitions "God"?

If no, the. You don't believe in any God and are thus an atheist.

Being an agnostic is entirely seperate. The two positions are not mutually exclusive. You would be an agnostic atheist.

 

If I pushed my faith on you it's not on purpose, and I apologize if I did. However, you have to understand my faith is who I am. So in a debate or argument it's not me pushing it on others, it's just who I am. I have never told you that you need to be a Christian or else. I merely represent God. For an example, "same sex marriage", I am against it because to God it is an abomination. Thus I will always vote against it. That is not pushing my faith on anybody, that's expressing who I am. If the majority votes for it, than that is the country we live in, and I will accept that. I will also not judge those who take part in it. Rather pray for them! I will not ridicule, mock, hate, or have anger towards them, for they are God's children as well, I am no better. But never will I tell a child or anybody that it is ok. I will strongly voice my opinion, and deliver the word of God to them, on the matter. This goes for anything politically, and in general life/situations.

 

That's not an answer. If you give me a post and page number, or just tell me what I said, I would appreciate it. You accuse me of doing something that you supply no evidence of. And I'm not saying I didn't do it, I just want to know what I said.

 

No....the definition of an Atheist is a person who does not believe in religion or GODS period.

As an Agnostic I hold out upon making such a decision with zero evidence existing either way.

AA

 

You not "making a decision". Atheism/theism is a description of a state of belief.

If you do not actively believe in a deity, you are an atheist.

 

No.....just because not believing in a GOD is the criteria for what an Atheist is does not in any way interfere with the criteria or being an Agnostic is as the two are mutually exclusive.

An Agnostic will not say there is no GOD as there is no proof whether there is or not thus the Agnostic decides NOT to decide.

AA

 

Atheism doesn't say "there is no God". Atheism says "I don't believe in God." Antitheism is the belief that there is not God.

Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. The first deals with knowledge, the second deals with belief.

If you don't actively believe in a god, then you are an atheist.

 

I recently left Christianity. At first, I did so still believing there is a higher unknown being. Currently, I question this belief because I cannot reconcile my having favor by this unknown entity when so many innocent suffer. So, I'm at the point where I want to believe there is a righteous entity, but I see no evidence it exists.

What am I?

 

Do you actively believe in a god? If no, then you are an atheist. Belief is a binary position. You either believe something or you don't.

Personally, I would like to believe that Buddhist reincarnation is real, but I have zero evidence of it and I don't actively believe in it so I can't call myself a believer in it.

 

I'm just on the fence about there being an unknown higher being. I follow no current theology.

 

Belief cannot be "on the fence". It is a binary position.

I don't know whether a god exists or not either, but until I have adequate evidence, I remain an atheist as I do not believe.

 

Going by the hard evidence, yes, I'm athiest. My being on the fence is based on an unexplainable event. I just am having a hard time reconciling this event with worldly reality.