So, What Is Greta Thunberg Accomplishing?

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Are you hoping to come up with a rationale that will allow you to continue doing as you please?
     
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    Well yes, yes I am. The rationale is called a Constitution and we already have one. We elect people to govern, not to rule. That's why Biden running out of patience didn't worry too many of us.
     
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    Possible.
     
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    You're hoping for what we don't have and never had.
     
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    No. See posts 258 and 259 in this thread.
     
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    That's a big gamble of human life and the environment. The left claim they are all about saving the environment what does happen if we have a real nuclear disaster, even just one?
     
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    Maybe you can set the record straight here and I'll get off your back. Who is the last Republican you voted for?
     
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    Ok. He had a border policy that made sense if we are to have a border. He had a sensible energy polity that acknowledged that fossil fuels are still our power source. He pushed NATO members to pony up and meet their financial obligations. He insisted on fair trade policies and used tariffs to enforce that stance.

    Now where are the band aids?
     
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    Are you saying that all these climate activisists consider reducing their own footprint 'nonsense'? You're basically admitting that it's all for show, and that they're just dirty liars?

    And what sort of shock do you think it would be, to me, if compelled not to travel or eat out? I've been doing it voluntarily for almost half my life.

    That'd be because I'm not a dirty liar, trying to have my cake and eat it. I claim to care about the planet, so I live accordingly. If you want an F350 (great cars, by the way), or overseas travel, or lots of restaurant meals, or whatever .. just ****ing have them and stop claiming to care about the planet. It's not difficult.
     
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    Which I've already been doing for decades. Probably beyond what he considers intolerable. A lot of people find it horrifying .. especially the white middle class greenies. It's the rednecks and migrants who aren't freaked out, because they understand frugality.
     
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    You mean the profligate consumers who expect Govt to fix things so they don't have to give up their funsies?
     
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    Oh talk your talk, but it WILL BE one or the other ;) I'm sure even a guy of your wealth doesn't build or produce EVERYTHING they will need in life ;)
     
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    You either want to mitigate global warming in some way or you don't.
     
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    I have no idea what they might do. There is a wide range of options.
     
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    Whoah. I think you have me confused with someone else. I never said anything about bandaids and your response has nothing to do with my post you quoted. Methinks you made a mistake somewhere.
     
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    Not sure what mitigate means. I've never said we should do nothing. But, I do appreciate you admitting that I was right in that no matter what we do, all we can do is "mitigate", which means Climate Change will continue getting worse, even if we do everything the left wants us to do. They continually lie to us by telling us that if we do what they want, Climate Change will be reversed.
     
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    Could be.
    Yep, I got cross wired, sorry about that hope there was no permanent damage.
     
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    I never supported a Democrat until Biden and only because of Trump. Gerald Ford is the last Republican I supported because every Republican since has been against a woman's right to choose.
     
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    You'd have to ask them about all this stuff.
    What you may be compelled to do or not do is not my concern.
    The planet needs a lot more than you reducing your personal consumption in some areas. You might be called upon to pay higher taxes, for example.
    I spent my money leading a community organization that opposed a two square mile garbage dump in a suburban community. Am I allowed to go to a coffee shop without being accused of not caring about the environment? :) :)
     
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    What is it we should be doing and why?
    Haven't heard this myself from scientists and economists, but we've all heard it from people like Al Gore or Greta Thunberg, media appointed as mouthpieces, or like Scott Pruitt or Michael Reagan, pols who were chosen by pols.

    The four mentioned above provide the media with blather they can play up as "news."

    What we're getting these days from environmental "advocates" (media appointed) is a lot of money-backed advocacy by business types with something to sell. My sister-in-law and hubby put a $50,000 solar panel system on their house in Medford, OR for $12,000. Thee and me paid for the rest. Maybe we would have been better off putting $38,000 into research.
     
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    Of course not. Bill Gates flies around in private jets and relies on medical technology to keep him healthy.

    Climate liberals (which may include rich conservatives) are trying to get from here to there on climate without themselves having to do without. Take the carbon taxes I oppose—you could raise gasoline to $20/gallon and I could pay without having to think about it. Those carbon taxes can even be revenue neutral, but the guy who cuts back on gasoline use is the guy who has less money. Raise the price of private jets by 500% if you want rich people to do their share.
     
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    I can't see how anyone could have watched the Democrat obstruction of Trump and listened to what Democrat were intending and see Biden as a better option.
     
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    So, you really are a lefty, no matter how much you want to deny it.
     
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    So, you are comparing yourself to Bill Gates. And you could pay $20/Gallon without thinking about it :) So the whole country doesn't really play into yours and Bills glamorous lives.

    And those little people, let them eat cake, right? Bloviating is all that I read here :)

    Funny thing about this site, BY FAR, it has the most wealthy poster I have ever seen slumming away day after day, hour after hour, and yet the SYSOP has to ask MONTH after MONTH for donations :)

    LMFAO :)
     
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    Don't forget, an equal to Bill Gates too!
     
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