So, What Is Greta Thunberg Accomplishing?

1) Are you saying you don't trust them to live according to the principles they profess? Surely it would be automatic, to say you care about climate change and alter your the way you live dramatically? Anything less suggests this is all performance art.

2) I volunteered, remember. Because I'm not a dirty liar.

3) Exactly. It needs every single climate activist to immediately start doing the same. When that's done, nothing more needs to be done. There are enough greenies in the world to make the crucial difference. So .. the question remains. Do they actually care, or is it all performance art? And if it's performance art (obviously it is), then why should the F350 owners take any of you seriously?

4) So where did the garbage go? And where did it come from? Coffee shops? Meantime, doing stuff 'out there' does not give you license to add to the problem. Why in heck would it?

 

I don't vote for Republicans because of their position on abortion. Ronald Reagan built his electorate by adding far right Christians. He added them and lost me.

There's no place for me in the GOP because my pro-choice views mean I have no chance for any position within the Party.

I supported none of these folks.

Biden over Trump is my only Democrat. Period. As for Republicans ... I will never vote for someone who doesn't at least support passing Roe v. Wade as national law.

An interesting mix given your expressed views.

 

That's just it. Just because I defend Trump from the far left's nonsense and government takeover attempts, the left labels me a Trump ass licker. By the way, there are pro-choice Republicans.

 

So, your point is ... what ...

... you don't have one but thought it would be fun to attack a young lady you don't even know?

 

I support effective climate change mitigation. Ineffective, I don't. Liberals have a devil's bargain with "green" business that often can't make money without a government subsidy. Conservatives have to deal with climate change deniers.

 

This is all just fobbing off. Expecting businesses (businesses you keep funding) to do all the dirty work, so you can continue the lifestyle that causes all the problems. That's what 99.9% of so-called climate action amounts to. Middle class people demanding someone make their lifestyle guilt-free. Sustainable is code for "I don't want to stop being a planet killer, so make it sound pretty".

Working class rednecks are way ahead of you. They don't have the money or interest in that problematic lifestyle. They don't need to change anything - you do.

That's what CLIMATE MITIGATION is. Every climate activist or 'supporter' immediately altering their lifestyle to reflect their professed concerns. That will do it more thoroughly and surely than any BS govt/business policies (policies which hurt the poorest, not incidentally).

 

You have to work through it with them.

They're pet poodles.

 

Huh? Who expects business to do anything but maximize their return!

It's the climate change version of a "free lunch."

I always had working class students in my courses. Working class people consume less, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't consume more given the chance.

Personal restraint isn't enough.

 

And wut about the THE

I know, long as I can afford <Insert unaffordable stuff here> it's all good
Or these unfortunate folks

Yup I can also sustain $20 a gallon fuel too, but far from the narrative I'm entertaining

And I pointed out where you justify them with ridiculousness

Didn't say a word about party affiliation, we were discusing the RICH, well, one of us clearly was As I have said, the rich "Regardless of party" will simply increase their holding off the backs of consumers or whatever other source of revenue that keeps and increases their wealth.. Odd you would ignore that after admittedly being able to pay $20 a gallon without issue.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you want to be ridiculous then maybe entertain someone more your equal, I bore easy when goes south like this

My-my I'm amazed you don't know how they do! I mean how many posts you need to read where the left complains the rich pay no tax!

Here is where we differ most, I'm positive you don't

 

1) Exactly. So if you want them to stop polluting, stop giving them your money.

2) Irrelevant. The average working class individual has a small footprint - so why on earth would a middle class person who claims to care, not reduce theirs to match? You know the answer as well as I do.

3) On the contrary, it's more than enough. If every person who claimed to care JUST stopped travelling tomorrow, it would be enough. If they also stopped consuming goods and services at a much higher rate than less wealthy people, nothing more would need to be done. The planet would actually be saved.

The following graphic is just twenty four hours of air travel. The vast majority of which is a choice. Anyone who is okay with this horror show, has no business uttering a single word about climate change .. ever.

 

The garbage came from several million people and was in the end transported to a desert region where containing leachate would not be a problem.

 

Rich people can't pass along personal taxes.

Do you tell your doctor he or she know nothing about medicine?

 

Hear! Hear!

I'd like to see more work on things we can all agree on, and one candidate should be the maximum utilization of Hydro Electric that produces electricity in abundance while providing recreation, water storage and flood control while it moves all that water from the North down to the American Southwest and the deserts of Northern Mexico.

How Water Powers The World.

 

LMAO, they simply increase pricing to meet their bottom lines/expectations and as most leftist say, use loopholes to not pay tax's

The other line, is more "I got nothing" ridiculousness

 

We wouldn't have a problem if personal restraint was enough.

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

 

They can't pass along personal taxes, why they work so hard at buying pols to get tax cuts for themselves.

 

No, but they, as the left claim, don't pay tax's

 

It's also unrelated to any plausible event at a nuclear power plant. The victims at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were almost all killed by the blast and fires, NOT release of radioactivity or radiation poisoning, and those who died years later almost all died of injuries received that day, not radiation poisoning. It is very difficult to create a nuclear-weapon-type explosion, and effectively impossible at a nuclear power plant. The danger is of a meltdown, which can create a small explosion, as at Fukushima, but that is orders of magnitude less destructive than a nuclear weapon. The subsequent release of radioactive material is a bigger problem, but people can get away from it.

 

Oh, yeah—I'm sure Democrats will see things your way, especially the stuff in red (see above).

Canada isn't going to sell us water especially if doing so involves creating a 500 mile long lake in their country, the Rocky Mountain Trench in the map below.



British Columbia is who we've been screwing out of money over softwood lumber for 50 years.

https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/economy/phys_econ/nawapa.html

 

You don't seem to understand the difference between business and personal taxes.

P.S. They charge as much as they can regardless.

 

I told you I oppose carbon taxes and you have not pointed out where I justified them.

 

Take it up with "the left."

 

Well clearly there is a deep connection, you ask them for me

 

I did, and highlighted them SEVERAL times

 

No, I have explained the Leftist theory on the rich paying tax's.. You just keep ignoring it LMFAO

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