So, You Don't Believe In Noah's Ark? Guess Again!

Why do people go to Psychics etc. They are usually people who need someone to tell them what to do, or what the future hold something to hold onto, like religion. . It's all nonsense. And who says the prophecies always came true. Most of what people were told would be standard jargon. Some of which would come true as a matter of normal course in their life. Most of the Biblical prophecies are written during or after the event. A wise man once said that given time all prophecies will come true. So I could prophecy that the world will end in 2820 and it might. No-one would be around to confirm the prophecy. Why would Isaiah prophesy the coming of Jesus 700 years ahead. Bit pointless don't you think. Prophecies are for the time, not the distant future. I'm like many of the prophets like Isaiah, I can tell people what will happen if they continue going the way they are. It's really not difficult. You can often see what they cannot see. Isaiah knew exactly what would happen to the Northern Kingdom is they continued to harass the Assyrians, and he warned them. The same with the Southern kingdom. Both failed to listen to his assessment of the situations, and paid the price. If you read the OT you can see him warning them. Especially the Southern Kingdom. They were quite safe, paying tribute to the Babylonians instead of being overrun. The moment they sided with Egypt the Babylonians had no choice but to invade.

 

Nah, the Greeks were all 'pantheists' because they believed in twelve gods not one. The Goddess Athena was the protectress of the city.

I read a story once about a mayor who was kicked out of Athens. He found a very tall woman in Corinth and dressed her up to look like the goddess Athena, and then had her drive him back to Athens. The Athenians fell for it. They really thought the goddess brought him back.

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The Athenians did not kill Socrates. They wanted to exile him and he preferred death. As for God given rights of freedom of expression, I think you're about 1776 years off - maybe more.

 

Socrates was sentenced to death. Athenian law demanded he carry out his own execution.

 

Socrates was sentenced to exile refused to comply and then condemned to death.

 

Tell you what, I will give you a few prophecies, mostly from Saint Paissios who died in the 90's, as well as his interpretations of the prophecies of Saint Cosmas who lived over 200 years ago. In the past he prophesied about the Soviet Union dissolving, the invasion of Cyprus, the Greek debt, etc., etc. He also prophesied about the EU breaking up and that Britain will be the first to leave.

He said that WWIII will start with Syria, and then will go to the Aegean - which is happening now with Turkey's incursions on the Greek continental shelf and its territorial waters. Erdogan will fall, maybe an assassination, and when he does Turkey will attack Greece. They will also do something stupid and close the Bosporus to Russian ships, and that will be the end of Turkey. Seven nations will be fighting in Istanbul and it will become a blood bath.

About six months after that war, there will be a catastrophic war and every nation that enters it will be destroyed. Not all nations will be in that war though. When it ends, there will be 30 years of peace, and then the antichrist, who will be the culmination of all evil. After he's voted in as a world leader, he will begin to show his true colors.

 

Gee, science... dinosaurs extinction caused by asteroid vs the Bible

 

SELECTIVE recollection applies to prophecies in EXACTLY the same way that it does to "answered" prayers.

No one ever mentions the gazillions of prayers that are IGNORED. They only tell you about the handful of coincidences where something they prayed about turned out the way they wanted.

Same principle applies to prophecies. All the ones that "didn't come true" were ignored just like all of those prayers are conveniently forgotten.

 

Moving of goal posts and kneejerk denialism duly noted FTR!

 

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It has to do with the prophet. Warlocks and witches such as Nostradamus, Mother Shipton and Baba Vanga are usually vague and never accurate in everything, only in some things. The same with those who are not in the occult, but unknowingly are influenced by evil sources - even monks. A lot depends on one's own discernment.

I know that everything Saint Paisios said is accurate, but how much is really what he said, and how much are words that were put into his mouth by others - perhaps by fundamentalist monks? He was reprimanded by another Saint for that reason, so he stopped revealing what he knew. He did say though that after the war starts in Syria it will go to the Greek isles.

Recently I read that there will be 3 hot spots, the Euphrates, the Aegean and Israel. I don't know who said it, but it does conform with other prophecies.
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Probably neither! I believe the earth expands, which might have been the cause of the flood - if there was one? Regardless though, if the earth was smaller at one time, that would mean that gravity was less, because according to studies made, it would have been impossible for dinosaurs to stand with today's gravity considering their size and weight.

 

Why would gravity be less if the earth were smaller. While the earth would be smaller the mass would be the same - just denser.

 

There is the daddy god, Christ the kid, the angels and the heavenly host and the devil and his demons.

Yup, a regular old fashion pantheon...

 

Nope, God was pissed at Noah, for tapping the rock twice, when he was told to tap it once, to get drinkable water flowing from it, so God had the jews wandering for forty years.

 

Studies? Missed those studies; must have been asleep or thinking. Do share a link.

I am guessing God was still fine tuning his creation about just before Noah’s time. It didn’t make it in the Bible; God wanted humans to think he was perfect so he didn’t share the failed experiments.

 

You have to listen to Treverow.

If Earth's mass didn't change, then expanding diameter would mean lowering gravity.

The expansion would mean that Earth's surface is farther from the center of mass. It may sound weird, but thats how gravity works.

And, if Earth were acquiring new mass at a rate enough to grow Earth's diameter noticeably it would probably mean a shower of new mass like asteroids so significant as to create hell on Earth for centuries. One little aseroid wipled out the dinos (maybe with a little help?). Having large numbers of such asteroids crashing here every day for centuries? Bzzt - thanks for playing.

The whole ark story is just rife with impossibility as literal recounting.

On the other hand, as an allegory one can derive all the same meaning. And, there is nothing wrong with allegory - it's a principle communication style that has had huge importance throughout human history.

 

Look up expanding earth on YouTube. There's a lot of stuff there.




God's greatest gift to man.

 

I'm guessing that you're not serious this time. Otherwise, there is no issue involving knowledge by the plant; it's all about the pharmacological induction of altered states of consciousness. Note the last sentence taken from Wikipedia:

The toxic substances of oleander resulted in symptoms similar to those of epilepsy, the “sacred disease,” which may have been seen as the possession of the Pythia by the spirit of Apollo.

 

The issue here are the prophecies that the oracle gave and not whether the plant was affecting her appearance. There had to be a certain amount of accuracy in what the oracle said, or the Greeks would not have been walking hundreds of miles out of their way to consult the oracle before going to war. The mathematical probability of the oracle being able to guess accurately so many times and for so many years would be astronomical - or so I think.

Since the information came from a malevolent being, the answers given by the oracle were probably not direct and somewhat vague, yet they did manage to come true but not in the way expected. That could be said for all prophecies though, since everyone interprets things differently.

 

But all mass had to have originated in someway, so why wouldn't the mass increase by the same means? Do you know that the continents are billions of years older than the crust of the earth under the sea?

 

Mass originated when the Earth was forming. An imperceptable amount had been added by meteorites hitting the earth. Otherwise it has remained the same.
Of course some of the crust is younger. It is forming continually as the continents move splitting the current crust. The crust is formed out of magma. It's just mass transformed from magma to crust. But there was crust before the large continent split by movement of the tectonic plates. What do you think was there before that on the bed of the ocean of the time.

 

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The affect on personal appearance is a side issue. I see the overall subject as a paranormal phenomenon involving an altered state of consciousness, whereas you cling to the even more intangible influence of a malevolent being. We will have to remain in disagreement.

However, yours is clearly more in line with the religious emphases on guilt-burden and nonhuman troublemaker. I see these as part of the alignment towards irresponsibility, shifting the blame, and disempowerment.

The historical accounts indicate the prophesies were often issued in a crafty vague form, e.g. when a King anticipating a battle or war asked for a prediction of his likely success, the answer was something like "you will not lose" which also meant he wouldn't win because of his demise beforehand for some other reason.

 

As I said, I believe in an expanding earth - which would account for the oceans having a newer crust than the continents. ​

You said that matter was added to earth when meteorites hit, yet that doesn't explain where their own matter came from? What I see is a continual growth in the universe as well as the earth. How the mass is developing and taking form is a mystery, and to be honest, I don't think we will ever know.

 

So you are completely UNAWARE of Plate Tectonics where there are parts of the Earth's crust that are being pushed UNDER other parts and melting back into Magma?