St Louis shooting: protesters clash with police at scene of teenager's death

there could still be a civil case, OJ was found not guilty but still lost in the civil trial

I do not think the officer was guilty of a crime, but the city might by liable for a wrongful death if they can not 100% prove that he was going to attack the officer when the officer shot him

a simple cop cam would of helped so much in this case

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So without a 911 call you will admit that the cop had zero reason to harass the guys. Thanks for admitting that.

 

in ferguson protesters looted a lot, it was very profitable to them! http://www.theroot.com/blogs/the_grapevine/2014/11/ferguson_rioters_loot_store_michael_brown_allegedly_robbed.html
these guys decides that this case can be profitable to them, i think, it's the main target of all protesters. If i'm not right, please, tell me, what really useful, protests brings to us?

 

How can I be specific about what was NOT presented, or looked into? I once worked for a boss who asked me to be specific about all the unexpected problems that might come up, so he could schedule and budget for them. You sound just like that boss.

The grand jury MIGHT have looked at all relevant evidence. We will never know. So specifically what I would have liked, would be a forum where Brown's legal representatives could present their own evidence, and perform cross-examination of hostile witnesses. You know, a trial.

 

And was fined millions that he never paid. Justice for sure.

As far as I can tell, the officer committed no crime. So I agree, there was probably something the officer could have done short of gunning down Brown in a hail of bullets. I don't know.

After the Garner case, I wonder. Garner was clearly less confrontational than Brown, much less aggressive, didn't struggle for a gun, didn't charge toward anyone, had his hands up, and it was all recorded. But, no indictment.

So let's say a simple cop cam showed that, JUST like Garner, Brown held up his hands, backed away, charged toward nobody, and was completely non-threatening. Hey, in Garner's case that video didn't make a bit of difference. Brown was certainly more threatening than Garner. How would a cop cam have helped? If killing unarmed, unagressive, nonthreatening people is just dandy, indictments of cops is simply not gonna happen. And it doesn't.

 

the is the motivation of the gang-bangers and looters I am sure, protestors just want to see change, not be harassed just for being black

end prohibition and I think a lot of these harassment issues go away

 

Fair enough, now tell me where the injuries occurred to Officer Wilson in these photos http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/24/justice/gallery/darren-wilson/index.html?iid=article_sidebar, then give me the eyewitness account that supports Brown attacking Officer Wilson in his vehicle and just for a show of good faith please tell me how Brown's blood in Officer Wilson's patrol vehicle proves Brown attacked him.

 

I agree with you about the Garner case, my hope would be if the public saw those types of cases on video over and over eventually they would be as outraged as they should be

but I think a couple independent 3rd parties needs to review all videos as they should all be available to the public

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IF the policeman had been actually as innocent as had CLAIMED then he would have WANTED to go to trial. He wouldn't have NEEDED a Grand Jury to go to bat for him and head off a day in court for the victim. Answer THAT, willya? If Wilson HADN'T actually killed his victim for no reason why didn't he WANT his day in court, why didn't he want to be fully exonerated the way you're supposed to be when you're a citizen in America. Instead, he took his million dollars of blood money from his conservative groupies and ran. And all you conservatives are good little sycophants yourselves. "Look at the wonderful BRAVE and HEROIC policeman who shoots an unarmed person and gets off. He shot a N...I mean...a THUG and now we're going to help him get away with murder and all all the N...uh...thugs are wrong to even object. Boy these n...uh....thugs, are sure getting uppity, aren't they? I mean, actually objecting to being killed and all

Bull (*)(*)(*)(*). The only reason the conservatives think Wilson was such a hero was he did what they all want to. He killed a n...uh...thug. Why do you THINK they keep such huge gun collections? Nothing more than a murderer's fantasy. One thing that's come out of this is that has been exposed as the lie it always was. They can bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about being hunters and collectors all they want, they're not fooling anybody any more.

 

Basically, you are against the grand jury system and want every accusation to result in a trial. Not very smart.

 

Will/can blacks ever understand that if they dont commit crimes, they wont be shot by cops and/or armed citizens? Will that concept ever sink in? How many blacks are shot/arrested at home, at work, in the library, etc?

 

Wanted to go to trial?

Even when one is found not guilty trials are personally ruinous. It's why any fair legal system places the bar very high for the government to even bring charges. The cost is so high that even innocent people reach plea deals because the personal cost of the trial is many times greater than the ultimate penalty for the crime.

Pyrrhic victory: a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat.

Cheers
Labour

 

Wrong. The only people accusing him of a crime were race pimps and race baiters including white guilting libruls. He said he was justified all along and that was proven to be true. Relax, have an eggnog and brandy and be thankful the Wilson's of the world take out the garbage.

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Wilson's photos are in the autopsy? I missed it. Wilson took out the trash.

 

Lets see Amadou Diallo, Mrs Kathryn Johnson those two just popped right up in my head.

 

I don't know how you come to those conclusions. I have written several times, and I will repeat, the grand jury system has a bug. It does a LOUSY job of indicting one of its own - a member of the police force, the DA department, local politicians, etc. Other than that, it's a great system. And the problem is, the grand jury is run by the prosecutor, who cannot afford to undermine his teammates. He NEEDS those teammates in the future. So when one of its own is accused, the establishment closes ranks and basically stonewalls. This is Not Good.

I want panic or railroad accusations shut down by grand juries. I want valid accusations to continue to trial EVEN IF a membef of the establishment is the one accused. I'm not happy with "get out of indictment free cards" being held by the police department.

 

Got a list of names of blacks killed by other blacks? Didn't think so.

 

Can you point out in the photos where his injuries are, also can you give me the eyewitness account of him being attacked in his patrol vehicle.

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Sure do and the list is long, with that said what does that have to do with the question he asked.

 

http://tinyurl.com/latf34k

 

It's true that fewer than 5% of cases ever reach trial, and agreements are almost always reached beforehand. But those agreements are NOT like "we can't afford a trial, so you go free." The agreement is usually like "you will probably be found guilty at a trial, and probably pay X penalty. But if you agree to a guilty plea, you only have to pay x/10 or something."

Those few cases that go all the way to trial are cases where genuine contests exist, where the outcome is in doubt. Pretrial agreements basically never involve no penalties at all.

The Ferguson grand jury spent months in deliberation. Which also was not cheap.

 

I couldn't find the eyewitness account where Brown attacked Officer Wilson in his vehicle when this confrontation began.

 

Merry Christmas.............

Michael Brown's blood found in officer's car, on gun - CNN ...
www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/.../michael-brown-darren-wilson-account/CNN
Oct 18, 2014 - Forensic tests found the blood of Michael Brown on the gun, uniform and police car belonging to Officer Darren Wilson, a report says.

Documents offer insight into Ferguson grand jury decision
www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/...grand-jury.../70054292/
KSDK
Nov 25, 2014 - The witness said Brown began to walk back towards Wilson's car ... to his testimony, and attempted to fire twice, but the gun didn't discharge. ... Johnson said that both Brown and Wilson had engaged in a struggle near the car, ...


5 Crucial Pieces of Evidence Ferguson Grand Jury Saw ...
abcnews.go.com › USABC News
Nov 25, 2014 - Brown's blood was also found on Wilson's gun, according to the police ... was seated in his car and reached in and struggled over Wilson's gun.

A grand jury in Ferguson decided not to indict Officer Darren ...
foxct.com/.../breaking-a-grand-jury-in-ferguson-decided-not-to-indict-o...
Nov 24, 2014 - 9 to indict Wilson, not the “beyond a reasonable doubt” burden ... that he was shot while running away were true–several witnesses recanted their statements. ... Based on the evidence and witness testimony, the grand jury .

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-had-a-reasonable-belief-he-needed-to-shoot/

 

Yea Brown's blood, now how does that prove I attacked you?

Ok that part says nothing about Brown ATTACKING Officer Wilson.

So was he struggling not to get shot or take his gun? That question hasn't been answered.

Maybe I am not saying it clearly. Show the eyewitness account of where Brown attacked Officer Wilson in his car.

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Doesn't tell us how the confrontation started.

 

Hey it's okay. You and your ilk are in denial over the thug going down by procedure. Get over it.

 

They didnt say "not guilty"... Why are you debating something that didnt happen?