Stand Your Ground: The United State Of Cowardice

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  1. Just_a_Citizen

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    You ever tried out running a bullet?
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Not an easy thing, and sort of just my point.
     
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  3. Just_a_Citizen

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    So, you've done this then.
    Nice to meet you Clark.
     
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  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I was being satirical. (jeez)
     
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    I'm Having a rough morning Alek!
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Buck up my friend, Carpe diem. I'm always surprised at how much better that makes me feel.

    (I have to go take my medicine now)
     
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  7. Just_a_Citizen

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    I'm outta my medicine, until tomorrow..

    That's part of my problem!
     
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    No one is asking you to buy one.
     
  9. Pollycy

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    Yeah, well, I hope 'da boyz in da 'hood' never come to pull a home invasion on YOU!

    It's pretty obvious that you are one of those that think it would be better to sing them a couple of verses of "Kumbaya" than to defend yourself and your home! So, if you're threatened on your own property, just go ahead and let the criminals kill you. It may end up being the best thing you ever did in your life, as far as your fellow libs are concerned....

    [​IMG]. Be mindlessly gullible and STOOPID, like it's 1967! :banana: . :party:
     
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    the libs have lawfully armed men protecting their property at martha's vineyard, they do not have to resort to violence like barbaric conservatives

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/on-marthas-vineyard-all-eyes-on-obamas-real-estate-11567089027

    [​IMG]
     
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    Be nice; you are disparaging one of the traditional versions of a Leftist Utopia wherein it's the duty of the victim . . . to . . . be . . . victimized.
     
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    Delete
     
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    From a native Floridian~
    Thanks for your opinion, we will give it a thought, Maybe have a meeting over it in about a century, maybe. If we feel like it.
    Filed away in a round file.
    Worry about your own damn state. We could care less about the opinions of outsiders. Hope I made that clear enough.
     
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    In citing "allhiphop.com" (lol), you left out the main point of the article. Or at least the point that most of the article was devoted to.

    But, there is a clear distinction. Drejka is Caucasian and McGlockton is Black... One study says "SYG (Stand Your Ground) legislation in Florida has a quantifiable racial bias that reveals a leniency in convictions if the victim is non-White."

    Setting aside the fact that a single nameless unreplicated "study" is not science, it was probably made up in the first place because it was...nameless. And the author is clearly someone who revels in racial self-pity. But then Drejka goes and gets arrested for manslaughter, wrecking the whole "SYG just lets black people get killed with impunity" narrative. Is that why you left it out?
     
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    But you know, I might be wrong. Maybe people who use SYG against black people do in fact get convicted less often. It would actually be in keeping with SYG laws, as they usually say something along the lines of "had a reasonable fear of death". Well, when 13% of the population commits over 50% of the homicides, increased fear of death is definitely reasonable (and that 13% is being generous, because it includes the females too). So you reap what you sow.
     
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    That rate is overwhelmingly black against black, not black against white.
     
  17. PrincipleInvestment

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    Wrong. Blacks kill whites at a much higher rate than the reverse. Just because you don't like the statistics, it doesn't give you license to misrepresent them. Maybe pick a topic that doesn't make you so uncomfortable that you resort to making sh!t up.
     
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    Man, you should never be allowed to own a gun. You are projecting.
     
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    Let's be factual. Those numbers are overwhelmingly black on black, and anyone who says differently is not doing the research.
     
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    Are you virtue signalling yourself? What numbers? Who's post are you :hiding: from?
     
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    1. Look up the definition of 'virtue signaling.'

    2. You already accepted the numbers.
     
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    Here in Colorado, we still have a more-or-less workable "Make My Day" law. It's a 'slippery-slope', especially now that liberal Democrats have all but completely taken over Colorado, but in general, if criminals threaten you on your own property you can defend yourself with impunity. Two suggestions, though (recommended recently during a "concealed-carry seminar" conducted by attorneys) --

    1. Make damn sure you shoot the attacker in the FRONT of the body

    2. Your chances of escaping prosecution are much better if you kill the attacker INSIDE YOUR DWELLING!

    Interesting info: https://legisource.net/2019/01/03/does-colorado-have-a-stand-your-ground-law/

    The take-away -- if you shoot the attacker anywhere but the FRONT of the body, you will probably be harassed for weeks on end by prosecutors and the police, you'll have to hire an attorney, you'll never get your weapon back, and you'll probably have to spend thousands of dollars defending yourself -- even though YOU were the one who was being threatened and attacked. Then, pray you don't get slapped with a 'manslaughter' charge....

    If you shoot the attacker on your property somewhere, but NOT INSIDE YOUR ACTUAL HOUSE OR APARTMENT, you will probably be harassed for weeks on end by prosecutors and the police, you'll have to hire an attorney, you'll never get your weapon back, and you'll probably have to spend thousands of dollars defending yourself -- even though YOU were the one who was being threatened and attacked. Then, pray you don't get slapped with a 'manslaughter' charge....

    Oh, and in Colorado, if you're trying to stop thieves who are stealing things that are located on your property, be very damned careful! Odds are good that YOU'LL be charged with manslaughter, hit with lawsuits, and all the outrageous 'fun' that happens to people who are trying to defend themselves AND their property....

    How did this kind of crap get started? We were invaded by huge numbers of Californians in the 1990's, and everything went totally to hell after that....

     
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    Criminals have too many rights.
     
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    Such as?
     

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