States sue Trump in showdown over border wall funds

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, let me know all the migrants and drugs that were not apprehended.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FOX news proves entirely about the bias against TRump along with the deep state.
    I don't subscribe to FOX so what little of them i get is pure news.

    Trump builds wall daily.

     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quite the entrepreneur my pal. So when do you start the smuggling business?
     
  4. Pollycy

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    Look, I didn't write the Constitution.... As written, the President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief, has the duty and responsibility to defend this country, and declaring a national emergency falls directly inside that duty.

    Think: According to the Federal Register, 58 national emergencies have been declared since the National Emergency Act of 1976 was signed into law by President Gerald Ford. Note: ex-prez "Messiah" Obama himself declared national emergencies TEN TIMES during his "pen-and-phone" dictatorial reign....

    Ooh! But Trump declares a national emergency while thousands of 'migrants' (who knows exactly WHAT the hell they are?) in 'caravans' are pushing their way up through Mexico, headed straight to the U. S. border -- and the radical, America-hating Democrats go absolutely NUTS! That is total bullshit!

    I only wish that Trump had SEALED THE BORDER WITH MEXICO SHUT! If he had done that at the same time as declaring the national emergency, the Mexican business people would already be raising holy hell with their rotten, corrupt government bureaucrats to send out the paramilitary police and clean all the sh*t up that they've allowed on THEIR side of the border! After that (and it would not take long), Trump could reopen the border, and life would go on. Best of all? It wouldn't cost the United States taxpayer a PENNY!
     
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  5. Reality

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    You're obviously not very familiar with national emergencies act. See the definition of national emergency. Hint: the layman definition doesnt apply, its a term of art defined by statute.
     
  6. MrTLegal

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    This would be a perfect time to just make your argument instead of being vague and insulting.
     
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    Thats wall is REPLACEMENT wall that was funded under Obama.
     
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    That declaration has NEVER BEFORE been abused to SUBVERT the powers of Congress the way your odious BLOTUS is doing just to satisfy his urge to have a massive penis substitute with his name on it.
     
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    Your beloved BLOTUS has been smacked down for violating the Constitution already and he is about to be smacked down again for this violation.
     
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    Another BOGUS allegation without any shred of credibility!
     
  11. StillBlue

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    First point. Yes, large amounts of drugs are smuggled in across the border, AT CHECK POINTS. That last bit conveniently left out of your narrative.
    Second point. Do you know how much of Trump' s monument will be built on those reservations? Zero unless they invite the builders in for the same reason they get to have casinos.
    So again, the monument still does nothing to secure the border but does wonders for Trump's ego.
     
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    You asked for new wall Trump built. And that clearly is new wall. Where did you see any wall built by Obama?
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The reporters kept saying it is new wall.
     
  14. struth

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    Then fund the barrier for their protection
     
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    When?
     
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    How do you know the drugs are only coming through checkpoints?

    That is just a liberal assumption to avoid building the wall

    However drugs are only one form of contraband increased border security would put a stop to
     
  17. Derideo_Te

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    It took your beloved BLOTUS 3 attempts to get his "Muslim Ban" constitutional after the court threw it out over and over again. The final version is eventually going to be overturned in the future just like Citizens United. The Roberts court has an abysmal track record of BAD decisions.
     
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    They never threw it out they put an injunction. It ultimately was ruled constitutional.
     
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    The first TWO were ruled as unconstitutional and the third one is going to be overturned in the future because the Roberts court has become a farce on injustice and lousy rulings.
     
  20. struth

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    No, they were not...an injunction was put in place. They were changed and the third was ruled constitutional by the SCOTUS in June of 2018
     
  21. Derideo_Te

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    Kneejerk denialism does not alter factual reality. The injunctions were put in place BECAUSE the muslim bans are UNCONSTITUTIONAL per the 1st Amendment.
     
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    There was never a "Muslim" ban.
     
  23. struth

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    Wrong, the merits were never litigated. Regardless, the travel ban was ultimately ruled constitutional. Try again
     
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    Increased border security is commendable. Since the wall is only a monument to Trump and provides zip in terms of security it should not be part of the equation. In this case it's worse because he wants to divert funds that do provide security, particularly of our soldiers in harm's way.
     
  25. Derideo_Te

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    That you refuse to deal with factual reality is not my problem.

    https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/timeline-muslim-ban

     
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