Steve Bannon Indicted

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    LOLOL... I'll let your considered reply about seagulls and puppies speak for itself... LOLOL
     
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    Thank you for admitting you cannot disprove a single thing on that list. You won't even discuss it because you know its all true.
    Thanks again for the help.
     
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    If you have the intention of "altering the democratic process" you don't do it with a few hundred loudmouths, some dressed in feathers, at one place. Its a silly effort that threatens no one and nothing.
     
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    Government has no business in medical care. I'm glad Trump was unable to deliver on that one. But that's how our Republic works... sometimes the Prez wins, sometimes he loses. He's not KING.

    Mexico would have eventually paid for the wall many times over in tarriffs, crossing fees and more. No one ver expected the Mexican government to just write a check. But all those border fees won't happen now that Biden has cancelled the wall.

    Thank you Mr Trump for expediting the China Virus vaccine with your Operation warp Speed! THANK YOU SIR!

    Everyone plays golf at the executive level. I made more contract closings on the links than I ever made in a boardroom.

    Trump cut our taxes. A lot.
    Under Trump, the individual deduction was doubled, each bracket was cut, the corp tax was down 14%, the LLC exemption was $21,000, and student loan interest became deductible (think all that was for billionaires?). If you are not paying less in taxes it is because you paid none to begin with. Trump's tax reductions included making interest on college loans deductible. You think THAT was aimed at billionaires?

    I never wanted a free raie. I wanted to EARN it... much better... and usually a much bigger raise.

    Under Trump my wages went up... quite a bit. And with his tax breaks, the quality of life of my entire family rose quite a bit. What worker rights did he "strip" away? What safety rules did he reduce? Can you name any specifically? I doubt it.

    Reducing the deficit is a great goal. But as we all know, it is Congress (and the House specifically, that "controls the purse strings". Again, he was President, not king. And I must admit I find this comment very entertaining in light of the endless spending... trillion after trillion... of the CURRENT administration.

    The DOJ decided what to prosecute and what not to prosecute.

    Congress will never vote to limit their own terms. Never happen. Its not up to a KING... its up to a PRESIDENT... and Congress won't limit their own terms.

     
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    Steve Bannon finally turned himself in. It looks like he did something right. Now Bannon will have to face consequences for his part on what he did. What it tells me is that Trump was a bad choice for President.
     
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    Maybe not unprecedented, but why would they delay the vote? First off, it wasn't a vote. It was mostly a ceremony, but required by the Constitution to read the vote and have Congress hear arguments and vote to not accept them. This occurs on Jan. 6th, at 1pm. Exactly what do you know that most of Congress don't? Where are these brazen examples of widespread voter fraud, enough to even delay the process of a constitutional and legal transfer of power?
    So 80 million people should have their vote cancelled because you and others "think" there was election fraud? And some of the most vocal proponents of that thought have admitted they made it up?
    And those people aren't locked up because they were protesting. They were locked up for breaking into the Capitol, damaging property and injuring over 100 Capitol police.
    This may clear it up a little. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...gress/65-1e4d4dd6-eded-4187-85f1-d4dfcc3a9519
    Notice, from the article, which has excellent references,
    "A number of the Proud Boys militia, and even an Oath Keeper named Jessica Watkins, have also been denied pre-trial release, not because they assaulted police, but because they are charged with conspiracy with other members of their militias to pre-plan the attack on the Capitol.
    Conspiracy is also one of those thresholds the courts have decided you cannot cross if a judge is going to rule someone is not a threat to the community and eligible for pre-trial release."
    This was from July, 2021.
     
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    Whether you think it was silly, and I tend to agree with you but would replace the word silly with stupid, idea, it did delay the process, so much so that they had to reconvene and finish at 2am or something.
    Maybe we should ignore what they were doing and what they were saying and make up something that sounds better. They were literally holding signs and chanting about stop the steal, among many other related things.
    I'm glad it wasn't worse. The police would have opened fire in many other countries. I thought the event showed not just an ugly side of America, but also some positive things. The democratic process eventually went on, and our Congress didn't fracture and fall prey to the idiocy that inspired the event to begin with.
     
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    Trump was naive enough to think congress would put the interests of the nation above their own petty squabbles.
    The country is going to keep being bent over for three more years, and there is nothing we can do about that.

    BTW, to further brighten your day:
    Harris is going to be booted/resign soon, (before 2022) then Biden can resign, and we have a president NOBODY voted for, that will probably over compensate to get on the 2024 ticket. What box will be checked this time?
    Out government is a freaking B rated movie.
     
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    As usual from the republicans/conservatives, excuses, excuses, etc. The fact is your "King" made promises that he did not keep (lies) and that cannot be denied.
     
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    Congress has no subpoena power over private citizens.
     
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    The whole thing was a tempest in a teapot... much ado about nothing.
     
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    That is because of people like you and your mindset; first off I didn't vote for Biden nor Trump since both parties are corrupt on the federal/state level but you continue to support the corruption and hypocrisy by voting for either party at election time.

    Secondly and finally it's high time for you to start thinking third party if you ever want to have positive change in this country.
     
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    All Presidents make promises they can't or won't keep. Remember "We won't leave any Americans in Afghanistan"?
     
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    We tried that with a guy named Perot. It got the Democrat elected.
     
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    I would tend to agree with the third party idea. Way past time. Last two elections didn't have a standout for me to vote for, so I voted against the worst candidate, because he was/is just that bad.
    I would welcome a good third party candidate. How about a "Moderate" party? Still, there are local and state elections that have good "others".
    Good for you, by the way.
     
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    Then the president shouldn't be making promises he know's he cannot keep. Btw what is a "free raie"? And if you cannot get a bigger raise no matter how hard you feel you worked then what? That's great you and your family did well under the tax breaks; you must be in the upper 1% of wage earners. Tell us, how does it feel to make the billions of dollars each year while those earning minimum wage trying to support their families??

    DOJ never prosecuted Hillary even though Trump claimed she violated the law and was going to have her put in jail; are you trying to tell me that they'd intentionally let a public figure like Hillary break the law and get away with it??
     
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    So you are admitting that trump lied?
     
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    No one ever said it would be easy; it takes a lot of hard work and the candidate cannot withdraw in the middle of the campaign only to throw his hat back in again hoping to win. Learn from your mistakes and move forward.
     
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    I think a third party which embraces certain platforms from both mainstream parties with greater input from the public would benefit the country immeasurably. I was so disgusted in 2016 I wrote in my name and got an additional 7 write-ins from family and friends. My concession speech was a real doozy; neither candidate would accept my concession over the phone as well. :handshake: I think you can find decent "others" at the local level who could be trusted.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    He doesn't, because it's bullshit. It's also been black-letter federal law since 1857...

    2 U.S.C. § 192
    Current through P.L. 117-52 (published on www.congress.gov on 10/31/2021)
    Section 192 - Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers

    Every person who having been summoned as a witness by the authority of either House of Congress to give testimony or to produce papers upon any matter under inquiry before either House, or any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or any committee of either House of Congress, willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not more than $1,000 nor less than $100 and imprisonment in a common jail for not less than one month nor more than twelve months.

    2 U.S.C. § 192

    R.S. §102; June 22, 1938, ch. 594, 52 Stat. 942.
    EDITORIAL NOTES

    CODIFICATIONR.S. §102 derived from act Jan. 24, 1857, ch. 19, §1, 11 Stat. 155.

    AMENDMENTS1938-Act June 22, 1938, reenacted section without change.


    Bannon is screwed...
     
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    Free "raise"... pardon the typo. My secretary had the day off and I never actually took a typing class.

    If I felt I deserved a sizable raise and didn't get it, I'd change jobs. I actually did it a few times... from Boeing to Lockheed, for example.

    I am a middle class guy. The tax cuts were for EVERYONE:
    Under Trump, the individual deduction was doubled, each bracket was cut, the corp tax was down 14%, the LLC exemption was $21,000, and student loan interest became deductible (think all that was for billionaires?). If you are not paying less in taxes it is because you paid none to begin with





     
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    It was Biden that lied about not abandoning Americans or allies to the Taliban in Afghanistan.
     
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    "Smart men learn from their mistakes. BRILLIANT men learn from the mistakes of others"... Bismarck
     
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    A - if you don’t vote you have no say at all.
    B - third parties may split the vote of people who agree with you and those who “sorta” agree with you causing both of your factions to lose.
     

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