Steve King questions if there would be any population left if not for rape and incest

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  1. FreshAir

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    he jumps all over the place, first he never heard of it, now he thinks we all exist because of it

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    Never! The extremists of the world do not see grey. lol at the Taliban these people are like American Talibaners.
     
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    He believes ALL women should lose the right to their own bodies and be forced to gestate even women who have been raped.

    Forcing women to do something against their will, like RAPIST'S do, is EXACTLY the same thing Repubs want to do, FORCE women to do something against their will.......
     
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    Steve King is a hate-spewing degenerate, but, it is incumbent upon us to recognize that even the worst among us can eventually come around:
    Some are slower that others, and their vile imprecations indicate that it is clearly a painful process for many.
     
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    You are extremely rare then.
     
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    Actually, I find pleasure in thinking for myself. "Open borders" is a Trumpian myth. All the rest are red herrings. Unlike you, I have no presidential candidate. I have over a year to figure that out. That's what non rally goers do.
     
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    The idea that Democrats are principled and republicans arent is false period and what I find out busting hilarious is that for months Democrats tried to say Omar Tlaib and AOC weren't the face of the Democrat party and now your trying to tell everyone who the face of the republican party is. Just like they aren't happy that Republicans don't have to do crap with house passed bills.

    I think I got what Democrats want....... Control of every aspect of everyone's life but news flash Democrats aren't in control and they can't get over it.
     
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    I did not accuse Republicans of anything andnot of hyper emotionalism. I was addressing extremist anti abortionists. I did not introduce partisan politics or labels. There are pro choice and and so called pro life people on both though not in the same numbers. I as a male am not going to dictate to women what they can do with their bodies.
    An intelligent civil debate can only be held without false accusations.
     
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    Once again your claims of what you believe do not correspond to what you actually say in your posts on this topic and many others like it.








    The tactics you used on the posts above on this subject are full of partisan politics, hyper emotionalism, labels and false accusations. Everything you claim to be against except in practice.


    Don't pretend you believe in respectful debate on this topic when your history proves the direct opposite.


    Many people believe in life at conception. Calling them extreme abortion freaks, haters and crazies is not how you spark respectful debate.
     
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    I don't call Anti-Choicers who believe life starts at conception "freaks, haters and crazies" I just point out that they have no point.

    Lies and exaggeration , like how "babies" are " ripped out of wombs", how abortion is murdering a ""baby"" and women who have abortions are "sluts and murders", all spouted consistently by Anti-Choicers, is not respectful debate.

    Trying to take away women's right to their own body shows TOTAL DISrespect for women.
     
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    Sounds like King is auditioning to be a part of Crazy Donnie's administration.
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    You never answered my question....

    Who is your presidential candidate of choice?
    I can make the question, Red, Blue or Green if that would help.
     
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    You insist on comparing the US to the developed world like we don't have 34% of the population black & Hispanic.

    "In recent years, as high rates of maternal mortality in the U.S. have alarmed researchers, one statistic has been especially concerning. According to the CDC, black mothers in the U.S. die at three to four times the rate of white mothers, one of the widest of all racial disparities in women's health. Put another way, a black woman is 22 percent more likely to die from heart disease than a white woman, 71 percent more likely to perish from cervical cancer, but 243 percent more likely to die from pregnancy- or childbirth-related causes. In a national study of five medical complications that are common causes of maternal death and injury, black women were two to three times more likely to die than white women who had the same condition."

    "The disproportionate toll on African-Americans is the main reason the U.S. maternal mortality rate is so much higher than that of other affluent countries."

    https://www.npr.org/2017/12/07/5689...iving-birth-shalon-irvings-story-explains-why

    Meanwhile...

    "More Than 400 Women Have Died From Legal Abortions Since 1973"

    https://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/27/more-than-400-women-have-died-from-legal-abortions-since-1973/

    And apparently that number could be much higher because many states don't report abortion-related deaths as such. That's NOT counting the 50 million dead babies as a result of abortion.
     
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    Good lord, not this stupidity again.

    Let me just skip to the end of this argument:

    Democrats: Republicans hate women and want to rape them and make them have babies that they don't want.
    Republicans: Democrats love to murder babies and especially love to murder black babies.

    Of course neither are anywhere close to correct but it makes a good argument.
    No it doesn't
    Yes it does
    No it doesn't
    Yes it does.
    You are just contradicting me!
    No I'm Not!
    You ARE!
    No no no!
    You did just then!
    Nonsense!
     
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    Let's see if the comparison between King, Franken, Fairfax and Northam holds water.

    Franken: Caught on camera in sexually inappropriate pose demeaning to women. - Resigned.
    Fairfax: Accused of sexual assault and rape. Doesn't deny the encounters but claims it was consensual. - Would not resign.
    Northam: Admitted to wearing racially offensive black face. - Would not resign.
    King: Said something the left didn't like. - No need to resign.

    The squad made anti-sematic remarks and none of them were even called on to resign by top Democrats. Comparison fail.
     
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    You almost forgot.....
    Independent’s don’t want to pick up the tab for people who use abortion as birth control.
     
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    Here, let me help you out:

    "A suction, or aspiration, D&C abortion is a procedure in which a suction catheter is inserted into the mother’s uterus to extract the preborn baby. Tools are then used to scrape the lining of the uterus to remove any remaining parts."

    They even offer a helpful picture:

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    https://www.abortionprocedures.com/aspiration/

    By the way, did you know the Hippocratic Oath forbids abortions?

    "I swear by Apollo Physician, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture.

    To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine with him; to consider his family as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they want to learn it, without fee or indenture; to impart precept, oral instruction, and all other instruction to my own sons, the sons of my teacher, and to indentured pupils who have taken the physician’s oath, but to nobody else.

    I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but never with a view to injury and wrong-doing. Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.

    Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets.

    Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me.[6] – Translation by W.H.S. Jones."


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath
     
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    Studies have shown that sex education not only doesn't reduce premarital sex or teen pregnancy, it actually exacerbates the problem. So it isn't a "belief", it's a reality.

    I already pointed out that once the egg is fertilized, it ceases to be part of the woman's body but becomes a whole new body with a distinct DNA. The equivalent scenario would be to say that the fertilized egg is part of the man's body because it carries half of his DNA. That's obviously ridiculous in the extreme, but the truth is the same in either case.
     
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    He's right, without incest and rape, most White Southerners would not be here.
     
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    Racism bigotry and ignorance in one post. How efficient of you.
     
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    :) YOU NEVER answered my questions:

    Can you explain being "Pro-Life" but supporting abortion for rape and incest?

    How is the fetus caused by rape different from a fetus caused by consensual sex?



    AND the topic is NOT who is your presidential choice....
     
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    You did not point anything out you stated an opinion using DNA as your point. The fetus is still within the woman's body. Using your DNA example all abortions would be illegal. Not everyone buys into that.
     
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    No, I did NOT, YOU brought race into it as USUAL.




    Your racist post did NOT refute one word of the post of mine you quoted:


    So easy to not care when it isn't you.

    From wiki: ""Although the United States was spending more on healthcare than any other country in the world, more than two women died during childbirth every day, making maternal mortality in the United States the highest when compared to 49 other countries in the developed world.[3] The CDC reported an increase in the maternal mortality ratio in the United States from 18.8 deaths per 100,000 births to 23.8 deaths per 100,000 births between 2000 and 2014, a 26.6% increase;[4] It is estimated that 20-50% of these deaths are due to preventable causes, such as: hemorrhage, severe high blood pressure, and infection.[5]""""
     
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    I assume that's what Steve King meant, you think he meant something else? He literally said that unless ****ing and raping your sisters and cousins didn't happen the great white race in my district (Iowa) would not be here.

    You been to Alabama? Man some of those cross eye folks just don't look right.
     
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    There is no "baby" being ripped apart in that photo.






    BTW, obviously you didn't know that the Hippocratic Oath has changed several times over the years and some doctors don't take it....try the 21st century, it's the one we live in...


    BTW, taking an oath does NOT take away other people's right to their own bodies...nor should it.
     
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