Stolen election, can we get it back?

Heaven forbid we let the american citizens who vote decide an election... got to be pelosi and democrats in congress via impeachment

where were you through all of that?

 

Trump's lawyers are not trying to prove widespread fraud. They are claiming there were voting irregularities in certain cities which broke the state's written election laws. That is fairly easy to prove in court. They are also claiming that in-person voters were treated differently from mail-in voters where they have testimony from observers that signatures on ballots were not scrutinized as thoroughly as in-person voters who had to show ID and have their signature verified face to face by a human being. That suit falls under anti-discrimination voter legislation in the Civil Rights Act. If one voter's mail ballot can get a "pass" with a questionable or unverifiable signature on a ballot and another voter is held to higher standards, then that is voter dilution, and there is a discrimination claim.

Will the courts decide to throw out votes on these grounds even if they agree with the Trump attorney's that these inequities happened? Maybe. Or they could decide that the "interest of the greater public good" is not worth the disruption. Depends on the evidence, the expertise involved in presenting the case, and the judge.

 

Separate issue. Just like when Clinton was impeached (and I detested Clinton).

 

Florida had it's largest mail-in vote in the state's history - but not a single Republican has hinted that such a vote might be tainted.
Wonder why that might be the case?

Can you help me out? What was different in Florida? Thinking ... Thinking ...

 

That is not what the lawsuits are claiming.

What also destroys faith in our election integrity is Biden lying at the debate when he said he would not claim a victory until the election was "finalized". The election is not finalized until these lawsuits work through the courts, the votes are certified and the Electoral College votes are counted.

 

Like I said in another thread, the only one making false statements with an intent to deceive is Trump.

 

A whole lot of if’s.

 

So far...all hearsay. No actual proof. Why aren't they filing any lawsuits in FL, which had it's largest mail-in voting?

 

Trump was putting together his new Cabinet and White House staff within a week after the election - which had not yet been certified, and had
even closer vote totals then this one, so it rings kind of hollow for Trump supporters to try and make this an issue.

 

Maybe because in Republican states, Republican and Democrat observers were not blocked from actually observing or escorted out of the counting rooms.

Florida's election laws were also more sensible than states like Pennsylvania, particularly in a year where we expected an avalanche of mail ballots. Florida's election offices were allowed to open and count mail ballots the day they were received. Pennsylvania was not allowed to even open the envelops until election day, the day after the election in some counties. Florida had more time to process and settle any disputes over individual signature matches, etc.

Essentially, Florida followed the state election rules, whereas it is alleged that some cities in some states broke the election laws set by the state.

 

All opinions.

The courts will decide the legitimacy of the claims, plus any remedies.

 

Some people may be willing to suspend democracy in order to get rid of "orange man," but if we suspend democracy in this election, the "powers that be" will make sure we never get it back again. They may allow the 2022 congressional election to go forward, but surely, we will nominate someone they do not like in 2024. And it will be over.

 

it’s not.. impeachment was partisan sham, based on nothing. Clinton actually broke the law..

I rather have judges decide an election than partisan hacks in congress overriding will of the people

i keep exposing you all for your lack of consistency. I see a lot of whining and crying about trump claiming he won yet support for democrats claiming clinton won but russia stole election and trump was an illegitimate president.

and more crying on judges playing a part on this process but happiness when pelosi and democrat hacks went for the impeachment sham

 

A Trump supporter concerned about lying...now THAT is hysterical.

 

Yes, after Clinton officially and publicly conceded the race.

 

So there IS proof? Can you provide links to this proof?

 

A new governor who rooted out corruption.....you're welcome.

 

I never claimed Trump was an illegitimate President. I claimed he was a dick.

 

Her concession is not a legal requirement and does not impact the certification of a vote - which is what you claimed had to be verified
before a President can move forward in acting as the presumptive winner. So either BOTH Trump and Biden were wrong - or neither was under
your logic. Which is it?

 

Ahhhh, bless your heart.
Florida now has no corrupt public officials because of the governor ... dude. This is Florida. Wake up.

 

Sigh. The courts will decide whether the evidence provides substantial proof.

Yes, I could provide you with multiple links of right-wing pundits and legal analysts who are discussing Trump's legal suits and his odds of success. If you haven't gotten out of the media bubble which suits your preference and looked at what the right-wing media bubble is saying, then I doubt me posting links will benefit you.

Doesn't really matter anyway. This is in the hands of the courts now.

 

If Trump had conceded the race, then no one would be opposed to Biden moving forward. He didn't though, and that is the difference between this election and the last. If Hillary had not conceded and instigated lawsuits, we would have had to wait for the courts, the vote confirmations by states, and the EC.

This is not rocket science.

 

So far every link I've been provided has either been debunked or thrown out of court for lack of proof.

 

Okay. Not my fault. lol

 

True. But I suspect the reason you don't provide any links is because you know there is no proof also. Otherwise you'd be all to happy to provide it.