Strike Down GOP Gerrymandering

Um.....are government is NOT a democracy.

 

There is a very simple solution. Limit the number of angles in any given ward to X amount.

 

They will still cry gerrymandering.

 

GERRYMANDERING IS NOT A THEORY

Thanks, I find it opportune to post this Daily Kos input about the particularity of Gerrymandering as happened in the last election found here: Blue Wave Obscures Continued Successful GOP Gerrymanders

Excerpt:

The entry goes on to show key-state by key-state rundowns of how Gerrymandering works and does not work on-the-ground. There are some odd conventions. The oddest being one state where a Supreme Court decision undid gerrymandering for the national election to Congress (in DC), but not for state elections of the same nature. Of course, in the former the split in votes was more fair (50/50 between the parties) but in the latter it remained overwhelmingly Replicant - the result of gerrrymandering voting-districts.

My Point: Gerrymandering is not a theory. It has been for two-centuries (since 1812) a brazen-attempt across the US by the Replicant Party to obtain power by manipulating the popular-vote. Which makes American Democracy seem like a backwater proposition in some distant part of Africa ...

PS: I used to think that three, or four party political systems here in Europe were to be avoided because elections sometimes take two or even three repeats to obtain definitive conclusion. (Here in Europe gerrymandering just does not work. There is no legal underpinning whatsoever as in the US.) But, what does work is that differences of opinion regarding just about any subject pop-up not just in the press but as formulations of political parties in order to gain public attention. That's goodness!

 

If the borders are following streets then it can be curvy but if you look at some of the more egregious wards they will cut inwards for a block or two and then go back out to the original distance which is why you see so many cut outs in many of these districts. Only allow acute angles and don't allow them to be next to or within a certain distance of each other. This automatically prevents the "cut out" effect since they can't go backwards any more. For example the part under Bridgewater would not be allowable nor would the cut out next to Hopkington.

Its hard to put in words but basically you should be able to draw a line around a district and not be going in and out sort of like comparing a whole cookie with a cookie that someone took a bite out of. If the line moves towards the center and then out again that should be disallowed.

In this day and age someone should be able to come up with an algorithm that would do the job and there would be no need for politicians to get involved period.

 

Admittedly, I am no expert on voter-redistricting. There is a cost involved,and I am not sure how that enters into any calculation.

But, regardless of the cost involved, it should not be shouldered by any community, because the state should assure fair-voting to all its residents.

But, since there is NO NATIONAL LAW regarding the foundation of any real democracy, then the states all do it as they see fit. And they wait for some court to them their process is unfair.

Like Florida, for instance in this last election ...

Admittedly, this problem would be of a lesser nature if the US had a NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD with which to establish residence for any number of good-purposes! (Like any personal service that the state or Federal government by law should be offering any given individual able to confirm his nationality!)

All "states" in the EU require voters to identify themselves before voting. And people do it willingly so it is not a problem.

Agreed again, which is why the voting process, which is both national and local in nature should be decided by Congress (which is both national and state in nature)

As I said, I am not master of the art of voting-redistricting. But SOMETHING must be done about it. Why? See here:

That map above is superb "art-work"! Congrats to the Replicants ... !

Admittedly, I am no expert at "Fair voter redistricting". Neither do I imagine it is some black-art.

What is necessary is that there is a National Law regarding such districting of the national/state vote to assure that it is a fair and equitable representation and non-abusive of the resulting POPULAR-VOTE (which is sacred in any Real Democracy) ...

 

Strike Down GOP Gerrymandering

Good idea. Replace it with democrat gerrymandering. That should fix everything.

 

Gerrymandering should be eliminated. Neither political party should be able to benefit from it.

 

Hahahaha.

Tell me start you think the alternate to gerrymandering is.

 

You don't know what gerrymandering is, do you?

 

Actually I do.

 

As one who thinks gerrymandering should be illegal, which will never happen. Sure the Republicans gerrymandered the heck out of North Carolina, Texas and some other states. However at the same time the Democrats gerrymandered Illinois and New York. Both parties salivate at the prospects of being able to gerrymander. Sure, each party will raise holy Hades when the other party gerrymanders. But neither party is willing to stop it. The political gains are too strong or so each party thinks so.

Each state on its own could stop gerrymandering in its track. The problem is it is the party in power that would be able to stop it. But the party in power won't, mainly because they know gerrymandering gives them the political advantage to stay in power. Which party that is in power is irrelevant in the grand scheme of thing or in gerrymandering.

 

Then you know that every single district in America is drawn that way?

 

Who says there isn’t an alternative to gerrymandering?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...mmer-solved-gerrymandering-in-his-spare-time/

 

There is a reason House seats aren't picked at-large like Senate seats.

Representatives represent a relatively small group of people that have specific concerns. They are elected every 2 years because that makes them more accountable to their constituents. House seats are the only federal seats that are always elected.

Ports have unique concerns. Minorities have unique concerns. Farm areas. Cities. Poor areas. Resort areas.

Gerrymandering is the reason so many minority persons are in Congress now.

Liberals always blame others when they fail to earn complete power.

 

That's not what gerrymandering is about.

Look up the definition.

 

Congress has no legislative authority to enact any law implementing such standards.

 

It's tricky, of course.

We already have:
"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

That has led to federal review of cases concerning campaign financing, gerrymandering, id requirements and other civil rights factors.

So, making federal law on elections standards seems logical.

 

I know the definition.

There are 435 seats in the House of Representatives, representing 435 districts across America.

Do you know how many of those 435 districts were drawn by gerrymandering?

(Hint: All of them)

 

That has nothing to do with house of representative elections.

 

Please explain.

 

easy: democratic representation

 

a sure sign of intelligence

 

How bout we just admit both sides do it a lot and 'strike down' both?