Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes

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  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    You should be because this is a rehash of the Old Dominion analysis that (mis)used the same Harvard study results and was debunked by those that actually conducted the Harvard study,

    The Harvard professors point to this Harvard study that

    https://cces.gov.harvard.edu/news/perils-cherry-picking-low-frequency-events-large-sample-surveys

    The Old Dominion and the Just Facts studies are incorrectly extrapolating the number of non-citizens that are voting based upon a low level measurement error where US citizens check the wrong box when asked the questions "Are you a non-citizen that registered to vote?" and "Are you a non-citizen that voted?" in the last election.

    So all this reflects is the second dishonest study using statistical information from the actual study that has been discarded because it's erroneous. These two studies (Old Dominion and Just Facts) are a perfect example of "Figures never lie but liars figure."
     
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    It's even harder when people decide to willingly be fools!
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So its kind of like the "global warming" hoax then.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hans had the idea, from a recruiter of course, he would serve in the Army as an officer. Back in those days, the story was going around that recruiters told civilians lies to get them into the Army. But we all know that every recruiter told just the truth, of course we know that. :roll::roflol:
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is also my experience. I once would go vote at a polling place. There I had to sign that it was me voting and they had a copy of my signature. But by mail, while they can still cross check it is my signature, to register all I had to do is swear to tell the truth.

    But of course the border crossers are well known for honesty, correct? :roflol:
     
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  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting how Democrats as a group act so far as I can tell, as if the illegals simply are far too honest to vote in our system. Is this perhaps because the Democrats have the idea the illegals back Democrats? Who thinks illegals back Republicans? Count me as voting they back the Democrats so Democrats fight till the last drop of ink to defend the illegals.

    Wait, what advice was given to the illegals?



     
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  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a good idea. CA owes us the right to use our background check to prove we are citizens. My Brokers license should be all they need to prove I am a citizen. When I still had it, the appraisers license or the mortgage broker license would work just fine.
     
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    You have shown that you cannot back up your claim. You have now proven that nothing you post can ever be taken seriously. Thank you for playing. The alternative fact crowd will welcome you with open arms though.
     
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    As I asked before: Well , there is plenty of "proof" of the loophole, ( in the California motor voter law) and w/o PHOTO ID to vote, how do you propose we go about finding out the truth of the matter?
     
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    The best recruiters for the military back in the day was Hollywood.

    Phil Silvers Show / Sgt. Bilko,

    McHale's Navy,

    Gomer Pyle USMC.

    Any time John Wayne and the Sands of Iwo Jima aired on television the next day there was a big increase of enlistments.

    Same was true with Top Gun and Full Metal Jacket.

    Everyone who took the bait quickly discovered it was all lies.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I stopped voting absentee after the 1996 elections. In 1997 during the Congressional investigation of non citizens voting in the Dornan / Sanches Congressional race, the Orange County register of voters found four boxes of absentee ballots that were never counted.

    I have no idea how may ballots were in each box.
     
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    I've provided the evidence.

    Now try being honest, I haven't provided any evidence from a leftist source that you would accept.
     
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    Like choosing the wrong candidate for President?
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    That is why they promote "open boarders".
     
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    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    I totally believe this. The DNC will rig primary, debates, why would they stop there?

    0 class, 0 credibility
     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For all I know, my ballots never got counted. I might go back to a polling place now that you mentioned that problem.

    In my area, the Democrats have whipped us so what good would it do me to drive to the polling place? I shall think this over.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My original plan was to join the Air Force since my plans were to be a pilot and later on commercial.

    But after my visit to the Air Force recruitment office, I happened to talk to my next door neighbor about it. He had recently retired from the Air Force. He informed me that as an Officer, I would be able to get recalled into active duty for a long time. That scared the will to join out of me. I dropped that idea.

    The recruitment people never mentioned that part of it to me. I had taken a test and scored 100 percent so I started getting letters from all the branches of the military.

    My uncle got killed in the Army early in Korean war and i honestly did not want to go infantry. But as a draftee, I was supposed to be infantry. My unit in Germany was mechanized infantry and as the company clerk, I was pretty much exempted from the duties the other guys had to endure.

    Company Clerk is a good job in the infantry.
     
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    Well we know that some blue counties counted more ballots than there were registered voters.

    What disturbed me on the night of the general election of 2012 I cast my vote in Orange County. You were able to go on line and watch live feed of people counting the votes at the Country recorders office. They looked like unhappy U.S. postal workers.

    So I checked out L.A. County. What I saw were what looked like day labors who hang out in front of Home Depot. Then I noticed while they were counting the votes to see if Obama would get reelected, they were talking in Spanish !!!

    It got even worse.

    California Senate Approves Bill To Allow Non-Citizen Poll Workers
    https://thinkprogress.org/californi...o-allow-non-citizen-poll-workers-15443d667697
     
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  20. Lil Mike

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    It was Stripes for me.

    Surprisingly, my Army experience was somewhat similar, and that's a fact Jack!
     
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    You have provided proof of nothing.
     
  22. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't have to prove nothing.

    I deal with facts while liberals react to emotions.
     
  23. Wild Horses

    Wild Horses Well-Known Member

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    You have not posted facts only assumptions.
     
  24. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    'Estimates' and 'may have' are not hard data.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Are there any facts in the OP cite? Nope, not one. Just surmise, guesswork and possibility.
     

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